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Re: [TowerTalk] Trap ID

To: Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Trap ID
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:34:57 -0600
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It's the classic marketing axiom: tell people what they WANT to hear, not
what they need to hear and, often, certainly not the truth!

A lot of marketing, even in a relatively technical field such as ham radio,
plays to a certain level of ignorance in the average audience member.

Tell someone that all baluns are lossy and that you've "designed" a "feed
system" that doesn't require a balun and you'll prove PT Barnum correct,
even if that "feed system" is nothing more than coax directly feeding a
split driven element...

Tell someone the FL-2100B they've used for 30 years uses "potentially
DANGEROUS horizontal mounting" of the tubes and you might frighten them into
buying your amp.

It's the same kind of spin that got people so excited about that magically
broadband dipole that was nothing more that two wires attached to a dummy
load inside the centre insulator...

That being said, I have a Mosley sitting somewhere under the snow. I might
even put it into service, but I'll do so knowing exactly what my $50
bought...

73, kelly
ve4xt


On 12/11/14 5:14 AM, "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 22:43:27 -0500
> From: "Wilson" <infomet@embarqmail.com>
> To: "towertalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Trap ID
> 
> Someone suggested Mosley, which seems correct.
> 
> A tribander with only six traps:
> http://www.mosley-electronics.com/pdf/amateur/cl33m.pdf
> 
> Thanks,
> WL
> 
> ## There is NO way in hell you can get  the dbd gains that mosely claims for
> the cl-33-m ! 
> They are claiming 7.3 dbd on 20m... 8.1dbd on 15m...and 8.5dbd on 10m.....all
> from just 
> 3 trapped els on a 18 ft boom.  They also claim 20 lbs per sq ft at 80 mph...
> for wind loading on the
> 6 sq ft yagi.... more nonsense.  Dream on mosely, dream on.  My F-12  5el 20m
> gai on a 35.5 ft boom
> is rated at 7.3dbd.  My f-12  6 el 15m yagi is rated at 8.5 dbd.  Perhaps I
> should toss my monobanders
> and replace em both with the far supieor mosely... trap master  Cl-33m.
> Their FAQ is a riot.  They solve
> the balun issue...by not using one. They insulate both sides of the DE, then
> tie braid to one side, and hot to the
> other side.... then also bond the braided side...to the boom.  Hey Mosley,
> they have not made 52 ohm coax since
> the mid 70s. The pix of their factory floor looks pretty cool,  looks like it
> was taken in 1957.   Their monobanders
> have more gain than anything ever made in your wildest dreams...check this
> out. 
> http://www.mosley-electronics.com/pages/series/monoband.htm#power
> 
> Jim  VE7RF 
> 
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