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Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage Antenna

To: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage Antenna
From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:21:58 -0600
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I found that my Beverages at 10 feet high work quite well on 160 and even
better on 80.  My BOG efforts - not so good. Even with an amplifier, I
think a BOG might not be as good as something like a K9AY.  Just my
experience.

Chuck W5PR

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I would suggest you try it.  My guess is that it will work better if above
> the fence than in the midst of the fence, like an above ground beverage
> probably works better than a BOG.  Without any knowledge of what might be
> the best, I would put it up several feet above the fence and establish a
> separate ground connection at either end instead of using the fence as a
> part of either one.  The good thing, if the direction is of value, is that
> it isn't as visible as one in the clear.
>
> In 1980 I put up a Beverage a couple feet above a barbed wire fence.  It
> worked OK, although it was due North so not the most usable direction.  I
> don't remember having the impression that it was as good as others which
> were in the clear, however.  Not going for the root beer float - just
> saying that I still have some memory from 35 years ago :-)
>
> 73...Stan, K5GO
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 2, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Jim, I also wonder if a Beverage installed above and parallel to a
> barbed wire fence will work OK.  For all I know (infinitely close to zero
> about Beverages prior to this thread) it could help, hinder, or just not
> matter.
> >
> > If having the beverage a foot above other wires in parallel (other
> strands of barbed wire) will work OK then I can reinstall the top strand of
> barbed wire with a companion antenna wire (I assume perhaps erroneously
> that a pair of parallel 11 ga steel wires are not acceptable for the
> beverage) on electric fence plastic stand-off insulators that snap onto
> T-posts quite easily.
> >
> > A Beverage can be installed as low as on the ground so maybe having a
> grounded conductor a foot or so below and parallel to the Beverage is not a
> bad thing.  Any of you EE types or RF gurus care to explain this situation
> to us?  There is a root-beer float in it for the first to cover the topic
> well.  (Decisions of the judges is final as to topic coverage.  Judges are
> myself and any two like minded posters on TT)
> >
> > Alternatively we can vote on it.  All acceptable ballots will be marked
> on a US $5.00 bill and mailed postage paid to: my QSL address on QRZ.com
> >
> > Patrick     NJ5G
> >
> >
> >> On 2/2/2015 4:50 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
> >> Dear OMs,
> >>     Another point to consider is that while 13 feet might be okay for
> 160M,
> >> it is too high for 80 and 40 meters.
> >>                    73 Doug EI2CN
> >>
> >> 0.05 = 1/20
> >>
> >>
> >> ## JI claims that max beverage  height should be .05 wavelength.
> >> That implies 26.86 feet.   492 / 1.832 =  268.55 feet.
> >> 268.55 /  10 =   26.86 feet.
> >>
> >> ##  It would be interesting to know  if you could use an existing
> >> 6 ft tall fence line and strap a 8-15 ft tall pvc tube  to each
> >> wooden fence post.   At that height, it would be a bitch to install
> >> the beverage wire.  An orchard ladder might work.
> >>
> >> Jim   VE7RF
> >>
> >>
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