Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn 25 Guying

["Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>]

Note:  Depending on the size of the Ash tree, some people will pay good 
money for the wood.
I think our neighbor got several hundred dollars for his very large 
tree.  We had several medium Ash that were straight and tall.  I don'r 
remember the number now, but it was several hundred board feet of good 
lumber.  I wish I'd known that sooner as the power company "trimmed" 
trimmed one that was too close to the power line.  That left me with a 
30' stump about 1.5 feet in diameter. I cut it off and gave to one 
neighbor  for firewood.
These trees were solid and recently killed by the Emerald Ash Borer.  
Most of the wood around here is quarantined.
As strong as they are, I'd never use one to guy a tower.  They work 
really well to hold wire antennas.
We cut down most of the trees of any size that could fall on our 
property.  The map lists that as a right-of-way for a future road to 64 
acres that otherwise would be land locked.
73

Roger (K8RI)

On 12/27/2015 Sunday 2:34 PM, GALE STEWARD via TowerTalk wrote:
> I've seen trees used for as guy anchors but it gives me concern. However, they 
> seem to work well for masts that hold up wire antennas or for something 
> temporary for a small antenna.
>
> Last spring I had a fairly large ash tree that I found was totally rotted out 
> in the center of the trunk, probably 40% of it. There was no sign of this issue 
> externally.
> This tree was NOT used for guying and there was nothing attached to it but I 
> had it taken down. It's now a nice, useful pile of firewood.
> 73, Stew K3ND
>   
>
>        From: Kevin Stover <kevin.stover@mediacombb.net>
>   To: towertalk@contesting.com
>   Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 12:19 PM
>   Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn 25 Guying
>     
> Using a tree for a guy point is a really bad idea.
> Example: We used to have a 70' Douglass fur in our front yard. During
> and ice storm it dropped a branch which took out the rain gutters on the
> front of the house. We filed a claim with homeowners and they paid it.
> Two weeks later we received a letter from the insurance company
> explaining that they would no longer cover any damage done to our
> property or a neighbor by that tree.
>
> Long story short we took the tree down, at our expense, and found it to
> be hollow from the ground up to the 30' mark.
>
> Imagine the tree being used to secure a guy wire on a tower, the tree
> comes down for whatever reason, rot, disease, too much stress and
> pulling the tower down on top of your house, or worse the neighbor's.
> It's this stuff that encourages people to get law degrees.
>
> On 12/26/2015 7:34 PM, Wayne Kline wrote:
> >    I responded to this thread B-4
> >    
> >    The  tree can be used but IMO will not fly with a building permit application.
> >    
> >      The tree anchor  with the belly band ( around the tree with a loop of EHS)  is a bad idea.
> >    
> > the tree grows around the back side  taught wire  making it impossible to determine  it's condition .  the lag screw !! ymmv !!!!
> >    
> > fixed eye anchor https://www.macleanpower.com/products/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2040
> >    
> > There are a few open screw thread each end with optional end choice.
> >    
> > as for drilling  there a drills  and extension  that will DRILL completely  THROUGH the tree  NOT around.
> >    
> > But  this still will not pass any building  permit situation .
> >    
> > Wayne W3EA

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73

Roger (K8RI)


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