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Re: [TowerTalk] Ropes in trees

To: "Wes Attaway (N5WA)" <wesattaway@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ropes in trees
From: "R.Morris" <robrk@nidhog.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:03:45 -0500
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Small slice in tennis ball, poke in some lead weights, duct tape patch, make 
them fall more better.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 20:47, Wes Attaway (N5WA) <wesattaway@bellsouth.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I would not recommend tying the pull rope to the monofilament line.  Using
> string as an intermediate step works a lot better if you have to go through
> some Pine tree branches with lots of twigs and needles.  I have never had a
> problem using string (25# strength). This is an extra step but it rarely
> fails.
> 
> However, I am sure everyone who does this has their own favorite way of
> doing it.
> 
> Shooting over a high limb is one thing.  Getting the ball to drop anywhere
> close to the area you want it to be in is another matter entirely.  Using
> too much air pressure with a tennis ball launcher is normally a recipe for
> frustration and repeated shots.
> 
> Still, using a launcher is a lot cheaper than a climber.
> 
>   -------------------
> Wes Attaway (N5WA)
> (318) 393-3289 - Shreveport, LA
> Computer/Cellphone Forensics
> AttawayForensics.com
>   -------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 7:05 PM
> To: wesattaway
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com; jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ropes in trees
> 
> I've had some success on shorter (40-50ft) trees using a slingshot, with a
> high-density weight (heavy but not huge). Of course, it helps I can shoot in
> such a way as to not care where it lands. 
> 
> If your trees are fairly dense, a projectile such as a tennis ball may prove
> problematic: I've had tennis balls get caught in the foliage and not be
> heavy enough (and too large) to fall through. The tennis ball also seems to
> absorb enough of the slingshot's kinetic energy, leaving less energy for
> moving the ball. 
> 
> Seeing the projectile can also be a problem, so I've tied coloured tape to
> the projectile (usually a large nut).
> 
> Be wary of how you fasten your pull rope to the monofilament: a large knot
> can get caught in the branches and render the effort futile. I've had
> success tying two overhand knots (one on each) and then taping over the knot
> to hold the knots and provide a smooth transition. Going slowly once the
> knot reaches the branch helps. 
> 
> A tree climber like Jim recommends or a buddy with a cherry picker would be
> ideal. 
> 
> 73, kelly, ve4xt 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2018, at 18:39, wesattaway <wesattaway@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Good advice from Jim.  I use a tennis ball launcher, with good results
> shooting into tall Pines.  It takes some practice to be able to gauge the
> correct air pressure to use for certain shots.
>> 
>> 
>>   -----------------------------------Wes Attaway (N5WA)(318) 393-3289 -
> Shreveport, LAComputer/Cellphone ForensicsAttawayForensics.com
> ------------------------------------
>> -------- Original message --------From: Jim Brown
> <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> Date: 12/26/18  6:19 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> towertalk@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ropes in trees 
>>> On 12/26/2018 3:27 PM, Brad Anbro wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I imagine that this subject has been covered in the past but rather than
> search the archives, I thought that
>>> I'd just ask the group for some information.
>>> 
>>> What is available for purchase on the market for getting ropes into
> trees? I am planning on putting up
>>> an inverted L wire antenna and need to get a couple of ropes installed
> for supporting the antenna.
>> 
>> What kind of trees? How tall?  Three of the most useful tools are
>> 
>> 1) the Big Shot, an industrial-strength sling shot from Sherrill Tree 
>> Service.  You want it with the fishing reel and several small weighted 
>> throw bags. They're in NC.
>> 
>> 2) the pneumatic tennis ball launcher. When I moved to a redwood forest 
>> in NorCal in 2006, K2RD brought his over and cleared the top of my 
>> tallest redwood by at least 10 ft on the first shot.
>> 
>> http://www.antennalaunchers.com/antlaunching.html
>> 
>> 3) Tree climbers. They're expensive, but good ones can get wires higher 
>> in tall trees with pulleys that allow greater tension.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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