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Re: [TowerTalk] Question on R-TA-45 Torque Bracket

To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Question on R-TA-45 Torque Bracket
From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 13:37:10 -0400
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All yagis should definitely be torque balanced, preferably right at the clamp 
where it bolts to the mast.  Having said that, a significant issue is that 
local topography and wx cndx can combine to insure that all booms can be 
broadside to the wind.  Aside from tornadic events in which the winds clearly 
swirl, there are lots of other wx phenomena where swirling winds can be 
experienced and are not expected.

In the Macroburst wind event in Newtown, CT last year on May 15, with 110 mph 
gusts, there were violently swirling winds which appeared to be tornadic in 
nature, responsible for literally tearing off massive limbs on hundreds of 
trees with piles of branches at the bases of trees at sharp angles to the 
direction of the winds.  There was no rotation of the clouds but there was some 
rotation of the winds, which was likely due to the direction of the storm 
movement as impacted by local hills, valleys and other terrain effects .  You 
can have a tower properly guyed and it may not matter if the swirl is strong 
enough and rapid enough and it can be a major problem on some hilltops or in 
some valleys.  

All of this increases the likelihood of failure even if the actual wind speeds 
are within spec., and points out how important it is to anticipate and plan for 
potential failure points beyond the levels that are considered “normal” for 
your area.

73

Bob  KQ2M


From: Jim Thomson 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:14 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com 
Subject: [TowerTalk] Question on R-TA-45 Torque Bracket

Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 19:22:26 -0000
From: <john@kk9a.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Question on R-TA-45 Torque Bracket

<That is my concern too with rotating towers however there are many out
<there.

<John KK9A

##  with a plane jane tubular mast, you just alternate sides of the mast, for 
each yagi.
##  EACH yagi needs to  be  TORQUE  BALANCED !     Thats  most of folks issues  
right there.  
Its  dead simple to tq balance any yagi. 

## Problem with the  rotating tower concept is..... the tower is 3 sided.... so 
 ALL the yagis, 
end up on  the  same tower face.    The issue starts when all booms  pointed 
into the wind.  
You still  end up with a  tq  imbalance. 

##  with all booms broadside to the wind, the yagis are then again tq 
balanced.... which is... the  fix. 

##  Think of a rotating tower as a 100  to  200 ft long drive shaft.  

Jim  VE7RF


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