[CCF] RE: [CCF] Fw: [TOEC] Re: SAC uppe på NRAU-mötet i augusti

[jukka.klemola@nokia.com]

Huomenta,
NRAU kokouksessa piti saada keskustelua aikaiseksi ja
silloin esitettiin muunmuassa tuota keskusteltavaksi.

En tiedä mitä NRAU kokouksessa on puhuttu koska en
ollut paikalla.

NRAU kokouksen ulostulo oli juuri mitä pitikin,
eli kilpailumanagerit saavat keskustella keskenään
asioista ja jos ollaan yksimielisiä voidaan tehdä
sääntömuutoksia.

Asioita joita meillä on ollut esillä tässä CCF
foorumilla käydään myös kilpailuohjaajien kesken.

Kilpailuohjaajien kesken ei käydä varteenotettavaa
keskustelua muutoksista joita en tähän yleiseen
keskusteluun toisi, eli kaikki jotka todella ovat
keskustelussa, tulevat myös tässä reflektorilla
esille.

Otan yhteyden tuohon SM5KUX:iin suoraan.
Kysyn onko jutellut SM7NDX:n, heidän kilpailuohjaajansa
kanssa.


73,
Jukka


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kulha Jukka (NBI/Espoo) 
> Sent: 16 October, 2002 21:21
> To: Klemola Jukka (NMP/Salo)
> Subject: FW: [CCF] Fw: [TOEC] Re: SAC uppe på NRAU-mötet i augusti
> 
> 
> Tere,
> 
> Onko SRAL jo ehdottanut yhteen viikonlopuun siirtymistä??
> 
> 73 de jukka
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Juha Rantanen [mailto:oh6xx@sral.fi]
> > Sent: 16 October, 2002 20:27
> > To: CCF Reflector
> > Subject: [CCF] Fw: [TOEC] Re: SAC uppe på NRAU-mötet i augusti
> > 
> > 
> > Ymmärsinkö oikein ensimmäiseltä riviltä että tämä on 
> > käsiteltävien asioiden
> > lista NRAU:n kokouksessa?
> > 
> > Juha OH6XX
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sigge SM5KUX" <sm5kux@telia.com>
> > To: <toec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:46 PM
> > Subject: [TOEC] Re: SAC uppe på NRAU-mötet i augusti
> > 
> > 
> > > Hej,
> > >
> > > Följande är ett utdrag ur protokollet (den del som berör SAC):
> > >
> > > 1. Common Text for the SAC and NRAU-Baltic Contests Rules (NRRL).
> > > One official set of rules approved by all societies needs 
> > to be reliably
> > > available to all. How this is best implemented was a matter 
> > of discussion.
> > > The correct official version at the time of the meeting was 
> > believed to be
> > > available on SM3CER's web-site. The following changes were 
> > discussed at
> > the
> > > meeting:
> > > · It was agreed to add LN and remove the 5P from the Scandinavian
> > prefixes.
> > > Also to include a sentence stating, that any (other) legal 
> > Scandinavian
> > > prefixes are good for the contest and multiplier, as well 
> > as all other
> > legal
> > > prefixes according to the ITU definition of Scandinavian prefixes.
> > > · NRRL proposed that the number of prefixes for Iceland in 
> > the NRAU-Baltic
> > > contest be increased from the present number of ONE, to TEN 
> > district 2
> > > letter groups. IRA agreed to inform within 2 week how 
> they want the
> > > districts defined and give the letters to Sweden, c/o SM7NDX.
> > > · It was proposed that the Baltic countries be added as 
> > organisers for the
> > > NRAU-Baltic contest, making it a rotation of 7 organising 
> societies
> > instead
> > > of 4.The idea was well received, and it was agreed to hand 
> > this over to
> > the
> > > contest managers to decide, and if so SRAL will contact the Baltic
> > > countries.
> > > · SRAL Contest Manager proposes one weekend for the SAC 
> > instead of two,
> > > since the 4th weekend of September collides with CQ WW 
> RTTY Contest.
> > > Possible solutions are to move the second part of the 
> > contest or make it a
> > > mixed mode contest. It was agreed that NRAU ask the contest 
> > managers to
> > > discuss possible solutions and make a proposal before 
> > December 31'st 2002.
> > > SRAL will propose new rules for SAC-contest committee 
> > (contest managers).
> > > ·  Jari, OH2BU will integrate and co-ordinate from the 
> > above points, and
> > add
> > > to the existing correct version of the rules and make out a 
> > new official
> > > confirmed version of the rules for the SAC and NRAU-Baltic 
> > contests as
> > > decided at the Borgarnes meeting, stating so at the end. 
> > Appendix 3 is the
> > > result of this co-ordination.
> > >
> > > 2. Procedure for making changes to the SAC and NRAU-Baltic 
> > Contests Rules
> > > (NRRL).
> > > The procedure adopted at the 1999 NRAU meeting in Hurdal 
> > for how to change
> > > the contest rules needs to be adhered to. It was agreed 
> > there that for
> > > changes to be made to any NRAU contest, all societies must 
> > agree on the
> > > change beforehand, and a signed answer with approval must 
> > be received from
> > > all societies. It is then up to each society, who within 
> > their society,
> > > shall make the decision, the contest manager or the Board. 
> > Never must a
> > lack
> > > of answer be understood as confirmation of changes.
> > > It is now added, that changes made this way are only valid 
> > until the next
> > > NRAU meeting. A confirmation by this meeting is required in 
> > order to make
> > > the changes permanent. It is up to the contest manager/society who
> > initiated
> > > the changes to suggest the correct and exact English 
> > wording and to ensure
> > > that the ratification of the change is brought up at the next NRAU
> > meeting.
> > > 3. IRA and FRA Adoption of Rule Changes
> > > When the change was adopted last year, only SRAL, EDR, SSA 
> > and NRRL were
> > > asked. IRA and FRA now confirmed that they do not require 
> > to take part in
> > > this procedure.
> > > 4. Cabrillo log-input format
> > > Unavailability of the Cabrillo software specified last year 
> > has caused
> > some
> > > concern. SSA asserts that the software will be made 
> > available, and if SSA
> > > fails to do so before 1st of November, SRAL will provide 
> > the software.
> > >
> > > 73, Sigge
> > >
> > >
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