SS results..

Fri Apr 29 09:53:09 EDT 1994

  Personally I'm very disappointed in the new format for the SS results.
Because the old system presented the results by state, it was easy to
compare results with friends and neighbors. Under the new format, it's
difficult to tell who did best in any particular state, and comparing
results by state is an arduous task. 
 It's true that the new format more accurately reflects the scoring 
structure of SS. But, the majority of SS particapants aren't in the contest
to win. They're often more interested in comparing their results with
those of friends in their geographic area. 
 I believe that the long term result of this change will be reduced
participation in this contest. It's important to remember that the views
offered on this reflector are the views of serious contesters, not the 
majority, the casual contest operators.
Steve..AI7W

>From tree at cmicro.com (Larry Tyree)  Fri Apr 29 18:27:13 1994
From: tree at cmicro.com (Larry Tyree) (Larry Tyree)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 94 10:27:13 PDT
Subject: SS results...
Message-ID: <9404291727.AA17581 at cmicro.com>

Steve, AI7W writes:
> 
>  I believe that the long term result of this change will be reduced
> participation in this contest. It's important to remember that the views
> offered on this reflector are the views of serious contesters, not the 
> majority, the casual contest operators.
>

Finally someone had the guts to stand up to the crowd on this issue.

With the division listings, people like KK7A are suddenly 31st in the 
NorthWestern division instead of being second place in Idaho.  I think
the region reporting is okay (except all it does is print the top scores
all over again, plus a few more), but the section listing is more 
comfortable and prompts more local competition than the divisional listings.

There was one guy who used to get on in the SS just to win Oregon.  He
retired when it was clear he couldn't continue doing it.  However, if his
score was listed with everyone else in the division, he would be on top
and he wouldn't have been interested in competiting in the first place.  
So we have reduced the number of people who can be on top by a factor of 6.

I also would like to see the club competition be played up a bit more.
The sprints have showed us that have active groups in the contest is a
great way to promote activity.  People are probably more likely to get
involved in the contest if it is part of a club effort.  They don't have
to have a big score to feel they are part of something and are
contributing.

Finally, I think people who broke into the top ten on CW from the black
hole should of received more attention, and what about the fact that
three of the top ten CW high power guys all went to the same contest
school in the MidWest? (or is it even four?).

Tree N6TR
tree at cmicro.com

>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner)  Fri Apr 29 20:41:29 1994
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 94 19:41:29 GMT
Subject: SS results...
Message-ID: <TF5JLc3w165w at w2up.wells.com>

tree at cmicro.com (Larry Tyree) writes:

> I also would like to see the club competition be played up a bit more.
> The sprints have showed us that have active groups in the contest is a
> great way to promote activity.  People are probably more likely to get
> involved in the contest if it is part of a club effort.  They don't have
> to have a big score to feel they are part of something and are
> contributing.
> 
I agree completely. The thing that got me active again, after many years 
of non-contesting was joining FRC.

> Finally, I think people who broke into the top ten on CW from the black
> hole should of received more attention, and what about the fact that
> three of the top ten CW high power guys all went to the same contest
> school in the MidWest? (or is it even four?).
> 
> 

Does that mean in SS the East Coast should get more attention?
73 Barry

Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Usenet/Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >K2TW (FRC)
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>From Kim Culhan <kimc at w8hd.org>  Fri Apr 29 16:08:40 1994
From: Kim Culhan <kimc at w8hd.org> (Kim Culhan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 11:08:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dayton report
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9404291100.A3406-0100000 at w8hd>

>From the centre of contest/DX activity during the DAYTON HAMVENTION here at 
the "Stouffer's" hotel in downtown Datyon.....

ROOM #1226 - "THE SULTANS of SHWING" suite
Hosted by Scott KA9FOX, Chad WE9V, & Mike N0BSH
SIGN-IN SHEET AS OF 12 MID
	       -----------------------

     AA1AA "Lugi"
     W9XR "Spike"
     KF7AY  "Warren"
     VE6LDX "Heinz"
     WN3IC  "Bob"
     WB3DCG Tom

     WG9L   Bob
     VE3WME Bill
     VE3XO  Steve
     VE3MV  Doug     N4OKX      Mark
     W3ZZ   Gene     KJ4VH      Tim
     WX9E   Paul     N2XEU      Bill
     K9CJK  Jim      WA8ZDT     Kevin

     KJ9I    Dave    N7BXX     Gail
     KE9I    Jerry   W2GD      John
     WR3G    Scott   N3BJ      ?
     WU3M    SunflowrW2SC      Tom
     W0YK    Ed      KR2J      Bob
     KZ2S    SALAD   K1VR      Fred
     AA4GA   Lee     N2AA      Gene
     KR1R    Billy   KA1NCN    Dave
     KA4RRU          WD4KXB    Dennis
     KJ4VG   Ed      WN8PEE    Don
     W3ZZ    Gene    VK5ALY    Russ
     WX9E    Paul    KB9FIN    Dave
     N2XEU   Bill    N9KUT     Bob
     K9CJK   Jim     W8HD      Kim
     KJ9I    Dave    KE9FH     Steve
     N9QX    Leo     KE9I      Jerry
     AG9A    Mark    AH9B      Craig
     WR3G    Scott   KG4DX     Jim
     N3BJ    Alan    WW2Y      Peter
     RG8U    Braid   W9NQ      Bob

Unfortunately our bathtub ran out of beer at 12MID.   New contester's still 
arriving....  Fred, K1VR is running 162/hr on the in-room PED contest 
simulator

kim w8hd

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