force-12 ants

[Srockn4sr at aol.com]

Would like some opinions on the force-12 antennas.  Is there anybody reading
this that has switched from say a TH-6 class antenna to a comprable force-12
antenna?  If so, what did you switch to and what are your impessions of the
force 12 as compared to what you were using?

tnx for any input.

73 steve  n4sr

>From sellington" <sellington at mail.ssec.wisc.edu  Fri Jul 21 18:55:44 1995
From: sellington" <sellington at mail.ssec.wisc.edu (sellington)
Date: 21 Jul 1995 12:55:44 -0500
Subject: Listening First
Message-ID: <n1405791129.82897 at mail.ssec.wisc.edu>

N0AX writes:

>I think the whole point that is getting lost in the donnybrook over how to
>start calling is that listening first acheives the same result as making a
>query of any sort.

Now always the same result.  The station transmitting may be inaudible to
you, while the station listening hears you very well.  Haven't we all had
to defend the frequency repeatedly while trying to get a fill from a
really weak station?

Scott  K9MA
sellington at ssec.wisc.edu 

>From Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com>  Fri Jul 21 18:52:00 1995
From: Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com> (Eugene Walsh)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 95 12:52 EST
Subject: QRL?
Message-ID: <14950721175241/0004504465PK1EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Hello there;

QRL?
 
It is amazing to see all of the folks who do not
get it, except for the sane remarks of G3XTT,
K8JP and WQ5L.  NU6S, as only he can, wryly 
observes this argument with the perspective 
it deserves.
 
Why should K3ZO, a model for years of effective
and sportsmanlike operating technique, suddenly 
be accused of flying in the face of common 
courtesy?  Because he doesn't say QRL?  Fred 
did not say that he goes around bullying everyone 
he feels like, he just said that he doesn't say QRL!  
 
There are many different ways of probing for a 
frequency WITHOUT either becoming a nuisance OR
saying "QRL?" (Which I think IS a nuisance), 
or any other unnecessary blather like "Pardon 
me, would it offend anyone if I transmit here? 
If no one hears this please disregard this message."  
Have the "Radio Police" ruled that anyone who uses 
some alternative method, however unobtrusive, is a 
barbarian?  Give me a break.
 
Self righteous declarations of bruised sensibilities
are dramatic, but y'all should go back and understand 
just what it is you are responding to.
 
Respectfully submitted;
 
                        N2AA