"Is the frequency in use?...

N5RZ at aol.com N5RZ at aol.com
Fri Jul 21 16:30:46 EDT 1995

K8JP sez:

>>QRL? Is THIS frequency in use? The next thing that happens is an op from 1
>>KHz away says yes, because his RX is very wide. I f he moves to my
>>I might hear him, if he is still 1 KHz away, NADA. I agree with Fred, dump
>>in and go for it. The best signal wins! If you don't have the best signal,
>>better work on it for the next contest, in the mean time, go find a weaker

What is your definition of best?  Quality or quantity?  It is the dude with
the crappy audio or giant key clicks pulling up close I will berate.  I've
operated many hours 1 khz(ssb), 400hz(CW) and less from a clean loud signal
with minimal problems.   Pull up close, but make DAMN SURE your signal is

73,  Gator  -----------------------------;--;<<  N5RZ          N5RZ at aol.cim

>From Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com>  Fri Jul 21 20:58:28 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:58:28 -0700
Subject: Internet SprINT
Message-ID: <199507211958.MAA11900 at cascade.cmicro.com>


Contest period: 01:00:00Z to 03:00:00Z on Sunday July 23rd UTC.  This
       is Saturday evening in the USA.

Bands: 20 and 40 meters only (this is a real radio contest, no internet).
       Suggested frequencies are 14030-14050 and 7030-7050. 

Max power output: 150 watts RMS at transmitter output connector.

Exchange: Consecutive QSO number (starting with one), name and state
          or province or DXCC country (if outside W/VE).  The name for
          the first QSO is your name.  For every QSO afterwards, the name
          you send is the name you received in the previous QSO.

Call: CQ INT

The standard sprint QSY rule must be followed.  This means that if you
solict a QSO (ie: with CQ or QRZ), after completing the QSO, you must
QSY at least 1 kHz before calling another station, or 5 kHz before
solicting another QSO.

Both callsigns must be sent during the exchange.  Only one signal at a
time please and all QSOs are to take place on CW.  All information
submitted must have been decoded during the contest.  The use of post
contest detection or verification techniques or systems is not allowed.
Also, do not make round robin type QSOs.  It will be very easy to spot
these with the names floating around.  A round robin QSO is one where
you should QSY, but instead hang around to work the station who is
QSOing the station you gave the frequency to.

You may work the same station multiple times provided they are separated
by at least 3 other QSOs in both logs (regardless of band).  For example,
if WN4KKN works N6TR, KKN must work at least 3 other stations before he
can work TR again.  TR must also work 3 stations before working KKN 
again.  Changing bands does not eliminate the three QSO requirement.  
The three QSOs must not be dupes themselves.

You must not work the same station or stations using any kind of schedule
or system.  It is the intent of the dupe rule to make sure we don't run out
of stations to work.  It is NOT the intent of this rule for you to change how
you would operate the contest if dupes were not allowed.  If, in the log
checkers opinion, you have not lived up to the intent of this rule, your
log will be disqualified!!

Total score is the number of contacts you make.  Any QSO found to be
defective in anyway will be removed from both logs (yes, if someone
miscopies your exchange, you won't get credit for the QSO, so QRS a

Please refrain from using vulgar or inappropriate names.  If you receive
one of these names, feel free to either edit it or replace it with your
starting name.  Make sure to make a note in your log so we know what you did.
Injecting the contest with an inappropriate name (in the log checker's
opinion) will result in a 1000 point penalty per occurrence.  Examples of
inappropriate names may be found on MTV and generally start with the
letter "B".

Additional penalties will be assessed to people who work a significant number
of QSOs, but don't turn a log in.  They will be given minus one point
for each QSO that we can verify actually occurred.

Logs must be sent in ASCII format via internet to n6tr at cmicro.com within
72 hours of the end of the contest.  Figuring out how to send in your
log on the internet is PART OF THE CONTEST.  If you need help, we will
try to assist the best we can.  

Logs must show the band, time, station worked, number sent, number received,
name received and QTH received for each QSO.  Also, please tell me the
name you start the contest with.  We will assume the name you send is the
name received on your previous QSO, so you don't have to show that.

Results will be publised on CQ-CONTEST within 2 weeks of the contest.  Logs
are checked using the K2MM LogZap software system.  All checked logs will 
be made available by FTP except for those requested by the submitter to
be kept private.  Decisions of the judging committe are final and arbitrary.  

Good luck, tell a friend and HAVE FUN!!

Tree N6TR
tree at cmicro.com

>From barry at w2up.wells.com (barry)  Fri Jul 21 20:11:53 1995
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (barry) (barry)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:11:53 EDT
Subject: Listening First
Message-ID: <iisL9c4w165w at w2up.wells.com>

"H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu> writes:

> I think the whole point that is getting lost in the donnybrook over how to
> start calling is that listening first acheives the same result as making a
> query of any sort. (QRL, dit-dit, ?, etc.) By definition, if you're
> looking for a frequency on which to call CQ, then you're not in a high
> rate situation, and a few seconds of listening are in order.  I believe
> this got glossed over.  I don't think Fred intended to say, "Well, just
> spin that big round thing and when it stops, start yellin'."

Ward, you bring up an interesting point, and question. How long should 
one listen? 15 seconds sure seems like an eternity when you're hot and 
heavy into a contest. Also, 15 seconds is about 5 times longer than a 
QRL? would be. And QRL? should elicit an immediate response, if there's 
one to be had. Soooo, you are wasting time listening, if you listen long 

One other point - I can't tell you how many times I have cringed when an 
SP9 running 10W at 10 WPM, barely above the noise, replies to my CQ, and 
takes a good 30 seconds to send his stuff. Constant worry about losing 
the freq to someone who is tuning and JUST LISTENING, looking for a run freq.


Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >WB2R (FRC)

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