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Carl at ATSARAJEVO.AUTOMAIL.COM
Carl at ATSARAJEVO.AUTOMAIL.COM
Thu May 2 14:23:00 EDT 1996
SARAJEVO 02 MAY 96
REGARDS FROM SARAJEVO
THIS IS TO INFORM TO ALL OF YOU !!
PLEASE DONT SEND ANY QSL FOR PJ2/OH6XY, PJ9Y, T7/OH/I6XY OR 9A/OH6XY TO MY
ADRESS IN CROATIA,,, PLEASE !!!
USE MY GOOD MANGER JUKKA OH3GZ OH3GZ --ONLY--
THE MAIL IS COMMING OK HERE VIA CROATIA BUT IF YOU SEND YOUR QSL TO ME IT
WILL MAKE ONLY DELAY FOR YOU AND MORE WORK FOR JUKKA AND ME !!
THANKS FOR ALL OF YOU FOR THE NICE WPX CONTEST !!
THERE WAS NICE HOT PILEUPS WITH MY PJ9Y CONTESTCALL !! I MADE 10.105.000
POINTS !
IT WAS THE LAST TIME TO MAKE SUCH A NICE ACTION THERE. WE GOT ORDER TO
PULL DOWN THE LAST TWO TOWERS NEAR THE HOTEL CORALL CLIFF.
THE HOTEL HAS A NEW MANAGER AND HE FEEL THAT THOSE TWO TOWERS ARE NOT GOOD
FOR THE HOTEL !!
CANT UNDESRTOOD HIM !! I LIKE ALUMINIUM TREES !!!
IN THEN NEAR FUTURE I WILL WORK MOSTLY RTTY FROM BOSNIA !
ALL THE BEST FROM SARAJEVO 73'S CARL T9/OI6XY
>From Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com> Thu May 2 12:59:04 1996
From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com> (Tony Brock-Fisher)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 07:59:04 -0400
Subject: Ground Rods Made Easy
Message-ID: <9605021159.AA04533 at hp-and2.an.hp.com>
Newly installed ground rods put in with water may be loose for a year
or two, but after a few frost seasons, the ground settles in to make
good contact...
-Tony, K1KP, fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com
>From Robert Werner, Jr." <rwerner at usit.net Thu May 2 13:10:55 1996
From: Robert Werner, Jr." <rwerner at usit.net (Robert Werner, Jr.)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:10:55 -0400
Subject: QSL route for SES W3A
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960502081058.534f4b12 at usit.net>
If one of you "paper chasers" out there made a QSO with this station and has
their QSL route, could you please send it to me.
I know this is not contesting, per se, but it was a contest for me to get
through.
Thanks,
Bob Werner
rwerner at utk.edu
rwerner at usit.net
Amateur: KC4URW at N4QEA.#METN.TN.USA.NA
>From palooka at pyrotechnics.com (Joe Pontek, K8JP) Thu May 2 13:17:20 1996
From: palooka at pyrotechnics.com (Joe Pontek, K8JP) (Joe Pontek, K8JP)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 07:17:20 -0500
Subject:
Message-ID: <199605021217.HAA19501 at kiwi.pyrotechnics.com>
> Way to go, Paul!
>
> Congrats on passing your general test.
DITTO
> >question is what's the best why to do casual ssb on 20 meters. I have
> >put up an r7 (actually an r7000) and have had little luck making any
> >contacts. I checked my rig and antenna and all seems fine. Localls
> >hear me just fine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Bury your microphone in the back yard and polish up your keyer. Work
> on your code. Now that you are "over the hump", it will be easier.
> If you pick up the mike now, you are destined to be a general forever.
> Pick a goal like DXCC or WAS on 20M and go for it!
>
> Dick
I can agree with Dick, Paul. I found this out way back in the late 50's
when I got my General Class. I got 'Phone as soon as I could get the
modulator built. It worked, I talked with some locals, few out there aways,
but I soon discovered, I got out a great deal better on CW with a much less
power and antenna than on 'Phone. I went back to CW and the speed kept
climbing, because I was having fun and NOT trying to raise it. This was
before incentive licensing and not any operating advantage for the Extra,
and you had to wait two years before you were allowed to take the test.
I work many EU's on 20 meters with 50 Watts and a dipole. This is today. On
SSB, I probably wouldn't hear them. When the sun spot activity increases,
yes, you'll do well, but until then, it's a rough row to hoe.
Good luck, congratulations, have FUN!
73, K8Joe"Palooka"
palooka at pyrotechnics.com
>From palooka at pyrotechnics.com (Joe Pontek, K8JP) Thu May 2 14:07:24 1996
From: palooka at pyrotechnics.com (Joe Pontek, K8JP) (Joe Pontek, K8JP)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:07:24 -0500
Subject: Ground rods made easiest
Message-ID: <199605021307.IAA21786 at kiwi.pyrotechnics.com>
>Here among the Big Bolt contest group, we've found that a quarter of a stick
>is about all you need. Backfilling might take some time, but this also works
>wonders for tower bases and guy anchors. A really delightful spinoff is the
>effect it has on the neighbors: never a complaint again.
Ah, but you forgot tell everyone to where a military type uniform. That is
what insures no further complaints!!!!!!!
>Remember to practice safety at all times. Count your fingers before and
>after installation.
Oh, and carry a 30-30 or 30-06 with a BIG scope!!
>73+
>N8AAT
73, K8Joe"Palooka"
palooka at pyrotechnics.com
>From Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <gswanson at arrl.org Thu May 2 14:12:00 1996
From: Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <gswanson at arrl.org (Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW)
Date: Thu, 02 May 96 09:12:00 EDT
Subject: News about obtaining contest call signs!
Message-ID: <3188B4D0 at arrl.org>
PUBLIC NOTICE
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
1919 M STREET NW
WASHINGTON DC 20554
News media information (202) 418-0500. Recorded listing of releases and
texts (202) 418-2222.
May 1, 1996
AMATEUR STATION VANITY CALL SIGN SYSTEM - FILING GATE 1 OPENS MAY 31, 1996
Amateur operators who meet the following eligibility standards may request a
vanity call sign on or after May 31, 1996. File your request on FCC Form
610-V. Legibility is critical! If the information on your application is
not legible, you could experience a delay in processing, lose the
opportunity to obtain a requested call sign or even obtain a call sign
different from what you want. You must hold an unexpired amateur
operator/primary station license grant of the proper operator class, as
described below, to request a vanity call sign for your primary station. To
request a vanity call sign for a club station, you must also hold an
unexpired club station license grant listing you as the license trustee.
Refer to the licensee data base to verify that the call sign you are
requesting is not already assigned. A call sign is normally assignable two
years following license expiration, surrender, revocation, set aside,
cancellation, void ab initio, or death of the grantee. See Fact Sheet
PR5000 Number 206-V AMATEUR STATION VANITY CALL SIGN SYSTEM. For
explanations of Groups A, B, C and D and the geographic Regions, see Fact
Sheet PR-5000 #206, AMATEUR STATION SEQUENTIAL CALL SIGN SYSTEM.
REQUEST BY FORMER HOLDER (PRIMARY STATION) - For your primary station, you
may request a call sign that was previously assigned to your primary,
secondary, repeater, auxiliary link, control, or space station. When so
requesting for your primary station:
You may request your former call sign even though it has been unassigned
for less than two years. The two year requirement does not apply to an
otherwise eligible primary station if the call sign was previously assigned
to a station of the requestor.
You do not have to hold a class of operator license required for the
Group (A, B, C, or D) for the call sign requested. A call sign request by
former holder may be from any Group in the sequential system.
Your mailing address does not have to be in the Region designated in the
sequential system for the call sign requested. A call sign requested by a
former holder may be in any Region.
REQUEST BY CLOSE RELATIVE OF FORMER HOLDER NOW DECEASED (PRIMARY STATION) -
For your primary station, you may request a call sign that was previously
assigned to the primary, secondary, repeater, auxiliary link, control, or
space station of your now-deceased spouse, child, grandchild, stepchild,
parent, grandparent, stepparent, brother, sister, stepbrother, stepsister,
aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, or in-law. When so requesting for your primary
station:
You may request the former call sign of a close relative now deceased
even though it has been unassigned for less than two years. Upon the death
of the holder, a call sign is assignable immediately to an otherwise
eligible primary station of a close relative.
You must be an Amateur Extra Class operator to request a Group A call
sign.
You must be an Amateur Extra or Advanced Class operator to request a
Group B call sign.
You must be an Amateur Extra, Advanced, General, Technician Plus, or
Technician Class operator to request a Group C call sign.
You must be an Amateur Extra, Advanced, General, Technician Plus,
Technician or Novice class operator to request a Group D call sign.
Your mailing address does not have to be in the Region designated in the
sequential system for the call sign requested. A call sign requested by a
close relative of former holder now deceased may be in any Region.
REQUEST BY FORMER HOLDER (CLUB STATION) - For the club station for which you
are the license trustee, you may request a call sign that was previously
assigned to that station. When so requesting for a club station:
You may request your club station's former call sign even though it has
been unassigned for less than two
years. The two year requirement does not apply to an otherwise eligible
club station if the call sign was previously assigned to the club station
for which the requestor is the license trustee.
You do not have to hold a class of operator license required for the
Group (A, B, C, or D) for the call sign requested. A call sign request by
former holder may be from any Group in the sequential system.
Your mailing address does not have to be in the Region designated in the
sequential system for the call sign requested. A call sign requested by a
former holder may be in any Region.
A $30.00 fee is required with your FCC Form 610-V application. Payment of
fees may be made by check (payable to "FCC"), bank draft, money order or
credit card. If paying by credit card, you must also complete and submit
FCC Form 159 with your FCC Form 610-V. (Do not send cash.) Send your
application package to:
Federal Communications Commission
Amateur Vanity Call Sign Request
P.O. Box 358924
Pittsburgh, PA 15251-5924
If you do not qualify under the above eligibility standards, your
application will be dismissed. A future public notice will announce Gate 1A
which will have expanded eligibility standards.
For further information, contact the Consumer Assistance Branch at
1-800-322-1117.
-FCC-
---------------------------------------------
73, Glenn, KB1GW
E-mail: kb1gw at arrl.org
The American Radio Relay League
"Since 1914 -- Of, By and For Amateur Radio"
>From jboyd at ctobbs.com (Jerry Boyd) Wed May 1 14:55:46 1996
From: jboyd at ctobbs.com (Jerry Boyd) (Jerry Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:55:46 GMT
Subject: Contest Station Antenna Question
Message-ID: <96050206243836961 at ctobbs.com>
Hope this is a legitimate question for this reflector. Just retired and
will be moving to a 5 acre site near Mt. Shasta, Ca. in the near future.
Hope to upgrade my contest station from little pistol to at least medium
calibre (i.e. .22 to .40 for those familiar with firearms)
New QTH is at 2000 feet. peaks of 3200 feet at 3 miles distance and
5500 feet at 8 miles. Fortunately 270 degrees out of 360 has no
obstructions. The 3200 foot peak is straight over the north pole. The
5500 foot peak is at JA (damn!).
Anyhow, I don't have access to TA or similar software. For those much
more knowledgable than I, will those peaks at those distances cause any
problems? I know that slightly higher peaks at slightly closer
distances caused some problems at NK7U until Joe built some "echelon
stacks" to alter the takeoff angle. Until then we had a tough time with
JA from his place.
Anyhow, any thoughts, input, etc would be appreciated. Rather than take
up reflector space please respond dirct to JBOYD at CTOBBS.COM
Tnx es 73
Jerry
KG6LF
>From snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steve Nace) Thu May 2 15:33:16 1996
From: snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steve Nace) (Steve Nace)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 07:33:16 -0700
Subject: SprINT and Sprint procedure question
Message-ID: <v01510103adae768b69b7@[192.77.86.212]>
NV6O wrote:
>cq int nv6o
>
>(3 - 4 stations call, zero beat with each other, incompetent operator on
>receive end hears only last letter of one of the calling stations - say
>"N").
>
>Do I go through the exchange using just N?
Preference here is to do a 'N?'
or
You could try this:
Just pause for a few seconds, send nothing. The good op that is calling you
and has good timing will realize you didnt get a call. That same op will
also hear the slow ones and/or the long callsigns still calling you as he
finishes his first call. This happens a lot when I get more than 2 replies
to a CQ. Just pause and the ones on the ball will call you again.
73 de Hose KN5H
>From Gary Nieborsky <k7fr at ncw.net> Thu May 2 16:14:24 1996
From: Gary Nieborsky <k7fr at ncw.net> (Gary Nieborsky)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:14:24 -0700
Subject: Ground Rods Made Easy
Message-ID: <199605021514.IAA12157 at bing.ncw.net>
At 09:15 AM 5/2/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>has anyone done a test of the effectiveness of a rod put in this way
>compared to a hammered in rod? it would seem to me that using the
>'water drill' is creating a larger hole. this is evidenced by the
>comments that the rods are also easy to remove. but doesn't this
>reduce the surface contact area with the earth and therefor increase the
>resistance of the ground? i would expect a hammered in rod to have
>better contact with the surrounding earth and probably provide a lower
>resistance contact to it.
>
Dave and All,
I've been waiting for 'LXC to wade in on this one....must be too busy
scraping last winters moss and mold off to answer........
A ground rod driven into undisturbed soil will provide the lowest rod to
earth resistance. However firmly packed soil will do almost as good at
initial installation and after 5 years show no appreciable difference to a
driven rod in undisturbed soil. One consideration when installing rods in
wet areas: if you don't have a good ground system in place that spreads the
current out over a number of rods/conductors, you run the risk of having the
ground rods blasted out of the ground during a lightning event. This is due
to the moisture in the soil flashing to steam and popping the rods out of
the ground. I saw this at an irrigation pump installation that got whacked.
Popped the two panel ground rods (per NEC, the installation required 2 rods
because of high rod resistance with one. Code says less than 25 ohms) 4
feet out of the ground. Other wierd things; blew the end bell off the motor
and sent the armature 35 feet away into a barn. Scared the bejabbers out of
the farmer.
Hope this helps.
73 Gary K7FR
Antenna Farms
"I don't live in the middle of nowhere, but I can see it from the top of my
tower."
>From Ed Tanton N4XY <n4xy at avana.net> Thu May 2 15:28:55 1996
From: Ed Tanton N4XY <n4xy at avana.net> (Ed Tanton N4XY)
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 11:28:55 -0300
Subject: RAC n' Rollup
Message-ID: <3188C6A7.AA4 at avana.net>
OOPS! I was a little hesitant to put the 'review' on the reflector since
there was some criticism of its original announcement/appearance
here-but it IS pretty relevant to finding addresses/etc. THAT's why I
didn't mention anything else about it. So, the rest of it goes like
this: RAC n' Rollup v1.0
RAC n' Rollup is a frontend processor for the Radio Amateur Callbook CD.
It provides for immediate callsign processing (e.g. no required
selection of US or DX), and allows several label printing options. It
was written by Steve, N2CKH; and is available direct from him-at the
address below-for $9.95 + $1.50 postage (on 2 HD 3.5" floppies.) As I
mentioned earlier, it is exactly what RAC SHOULD have done in the first
place, and works very well.
Steve's Address:
Stephen B. Hajducek N2CKH
U.S.P.O. Box 8
Morganville, NJ 07751-0016
I should have said the above to start with, and apologize. I repeat: I
have no connection with Steve except as very pleased consumer. 73
--
Ed Tanton N4XY (770) 971-0436 Marietta, GA
email: n4xy at avana.net URL: Coming Soon
>From Ed Tanton N4XY <n4xy at avana.net> Thu May 2 16:31:27 1996
From: Ed Tanton N4XY <n4xy at avana.net> (Ed Tanton N4XY)
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 12:31:27 -0300
Subject: Ground rods made easiest
References: <01I480N77D0O00EZRA at UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
Message-ID: <3188D54F.12DD at avana.net>
I love it!!! Is this the UNIGROUNDER?????
--
Ed Tanton N4XY (770) 971-0436 Marietta, GA
email: n4xy at avana.net URL: Coming Soon
>From IK8JSV <gaetano.piscopo at pixel.stt.it> (Michele Piscopo) Thu May 2 19:10:14 1996
From: IK8JSV <gaetano.piscopo at pixel.stt.it> (Michele Piscopo) (IK8JSV)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:10:14 +0100
Subject: Contest Station Antenna Question
Message-ID: <v01530501adaea2d701e6@[194.184.24.178]>
>Just retired and
>will be moving to a 5 acre site near Mt. Shasta, Ca. in the near future.
>Hope to upgrade my contest station from little pistol to at least medium
>calibre (i.e. .22 to .40 for those familiar with firearms)
>
>New QTH is at 2000 feet. peaks of 3200 feet at 3 miles distance and
>5500 feet at 8 miles. Fortunately 270 degrees out of 360 has no
>obstructions. The 3200 foot peak is straight over the north pole. The
>5500 foot peak is at JA (damn!).
>
>Anyhow, I don't have access to TA or similar software. For those much
>more knowledgable than I, will those peaks at those distances cause any
>problems? I know that slightly higher peaks at slightly closer
>distances caused some problems at NK7U until Joe built some "echelon
>stacks" to alter the takeoff angle. Until then we had a tough time with
>JA from his place.
>
The angle over the horizon for both peaks is about 5=B0.
I have some statistics (Radio Science Sep-Oct 93) wich report the arriving
angles of of skywaves from multihop reflection: at least the 20% of signals
arrive with an angle less than 5=B0.
This means that you will surely have problems with this signals.
Anyway it is likely that also signals with an higher arrival angle will be
affected by a strong attenuation.
=46urthermore, I have some doubts on the effectivity of any kind of antenna
to overcome this problem.
The arrival angles (and, reciprocally, the effective take off angles) are
determined by the heights of reflecting ionospheric rules and even using
"echelon stacks" you can not change them.
>From Jim Reid <jreid at aloha.net> Thu May 2 19:32:36 1996
From: Jim Reid <jreid at aloha.net> (Jim Reid)
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 08:32:36 -1000
Subject: WWW Down?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960502183236.00736098 at aloha.net>
Aloha, No one in Hawaii can get out of the state via
the World Wide Web. We are being told something called
ANS or ANSI has gone down/failed/overloaded etc! And that
probably the Western US, maybe the entire mainland is no
longer on-line via all the web pages. And we just got the
SF Bay Area DX Cluster on Jukka's web pages, too!
Is this report true, or just a story being used by
internet servers here in Hawaii?
Mahalo and 73, Jim, AH6NB
>From snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steve Nace) Thu May 2 19:44:54 1996
From: snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steve Nace) (Steve Nace)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:44:54 -0700
Subject: Obtaining new call signs - not for all??
Message-ID: <v0151010aadaeb0e01e2f@[192.77.86.212]>
KB1GW wrote:
>PUBLIC NOTICE
>FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
>1919 M STREET NW
>WASHINGTON DC 20554
> AMATEUR STATION VANITY CALL SIGN SYSTEM - FILING GATE 1 OPENS MAY 31, 1996
>REQUEST BY FORMER HOLDER (CLUB STATION) - For the club station for which you
>are the license trustee, you may request a call sign that was previously
>assigned to that station.
Even though it sound straight forward, I wanted to make sure if this meant
that new clubs were NOT part of this gate. I called the number below.
>For further information, contact the Consumer Assistance Branch at
>1-800-322-1117.
The FCC told me that gate 2 is for new clubs. Gate 1A applications would
not include the 25 call wish list. I hope someone else can verify my
findings as I would not wish to spread inaccurate data and cause someone to
miss out.
de Hose KN5H
>From Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <gswanson at arrl.org Thu May 2 20:36:00 1996
From: Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <gswanson at arrl.org (Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW)
Date: Thu, 02 May 96 15:36:00 EDT
Subject: Last word from me on this issue to this Reflector...honest.
Message-ID: <31890EA7 at arrl.org>
Someone wrote:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>2 questions;
>
>1. My Dad wants his old call that he had in the 30's. The rules don't
>mention anything about proof of old call. Should he send in a copy of the
>call book page from 1938 with his call in it? I doubt the FCC has any
>records from back then.
>
>2. Can he use the 610-V that I downloaded from the ARRL FTP?
>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Answers are:
The FCC says nothing about proof of formerly having held a call, but an
amateur MUST have held it. If the FCC has reason to, they may require
proof. Also, all amateurs must sign their name agreeing to this statement:
"Willful false statements made on this form are punishable by a fine and/or
imprisonment (US Code, Title 18, Section 1001), and/or revocation of any
station license or construction permit. (US Code, Title 47, Section
312(a)(1), and/or forfeiture (US Code, Title 47, Section 503).
I certify that all statements and attachments are true, complete and correct
to the best of my knowledge and belief and are made in good faith."
Yes, the FTPed version of the 610-V is quite acceptable, in fact, you may
even download it from the FCC's web page.
73,
John C. Hennessee, KJ4KB
Regulatory Information Specialist
ARRL HQ -- 2 May 96
Internet: jhennessee at arrl.org
>From Walt Kornienko <k2wk at crystal.palace.net> Thu May 2 21:04:46 1996
From: Walt Kornienko <k2wk at crystal.palace.net> (Walt Kornienko)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:04:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bulkhead Construction
Message-ID: <199605022004.QAA23014 at crystal.palace.net>
I'm in the process of making my station conform to the current
National Elecrical Code (NEC). One of the requirements is to
have ALL conductors entering/exiting the equipment room (shack)
pass thru a properly grounded bulkhead panel.
I have two pieces of copper plate fabricated with 9 x 5/8" holes
for common coaxial bulkhead connectors (UG-363). I have the
neccessary bulkhead connectors but have not been able to locate
circular 8 pin connectors of similar, but not necessarily the
same, diameter for rotator or control signal applications.
Does anyone know where I can find suitable circular (or square)
bulkhead connectors for rotator or remote switch control cables.
I need several for typical 8 wire rotator cable and several 5 wire
(TIC ring, Yaesu) control cable. 8-pin mike connectors won't handle
the current for a 300' run of cable. Most rotator cables for long runs
typically have a pair of 16 ga wires, or larger, for the motor and
18-24 ga for the indicator mechanism. Any other suggestions as to
how to provide adequate lightening protection for control cables would
also be appreciated.
*****************************************************************
* *
* 73 de Walt Kornienko - K2WK (FRC) *
* *
* k2wk at crystal.palace.net or K2WK at N2ERH.NJ.NOAM *
* Snail: 52 Sunset Inn Rd Lafayette, NJ 07848 *
* 201-579-1966 (machine) or 201-579-3660 (shack) *
* *
*****************************************************************
>From Jim Reid <jreid at aloha.net> Thu May 2 22:49:38 1996
From: Jim Reid <jreid at aloha.net> (Jim Reid)
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 11:49:38 -1000
Subject: WWW is back in Hawaii
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960502214938.0073e550 at aloha.net>
Hi Darrel, and the many others who responded to my earlier question.
Whatever it was, was "out" for nearly 24 hrs. Now have service
thru Honolulu, tho it is sort of buttery slow. Only error messages
were things like "saerver does not respond"; no network problem
reported, Darrell.
Pleased to be back on-line again.
73, Jim, AH6NB
At 13:36 5/2/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>It is almost impossible for the WWW alone to be down - that's like saying the
>telephone system is down for conversations in Spanish.
>However, WWW applications have a tendency to be bigger consumers of network
>bandwidth, so loss or major overload of a major backbone link between Hawaii
>and the mainland could cause lots of timeouts and delays.
>
>What kind of error messages do the web browsers report? Timeout, can't
look up
>address, connection refused?
>If you can run programs like ftp and telnet, do they work or get similar
errors?
>
>
>[Actually, I suppose some gateway could be configured to "lose" traffic
addressed
>to the standard webserver port 80, as a way of preventing a lot of response
>traffic, but normally the protocol level moving the bits isn't supposed to
>look at that high a level in the protocol stack.]
>
>73 de KI6VY Darrel (networking since before TCP/IP!)
>
>
>From k7fd at teleport.com (John Nicholson) Thu May 2 22:56:18 1996
From: k7fd at teleport.com (John Nicholson) (John Nicholson)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Vanity Gate 1 open 5/31
Message-ID: <199605022156.OAA29393 at desiree.teleport.com>
>Hans, K0HB, wrote
>
>> "Gate 1" is for those retrieving a previous call THEY (or close
>> deceased relative) held.
And you thought the kids were just after your money. Now
you need to worry about which one gets your call! :)
73, John
K7FD (orignal, not sniped from a deceased friend or relative)
>From Herbert Anderson <andya at eskimo.com> Thu May 2 23:23:04 1996
From: Herbert Anderson <andya at eskimo.com> (Herbert Anderson)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:23:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re[3]: Burying the mike
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960502150302.10638B-100000 at eskimo.com>
I thought that most of the mics vere buried. Replaced by DVP's.
CW keys have been replaced by memory keyers or F1 keys on our
computers. Picky!! Picky!!
73, de F1 or is it F2
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