The OpenLogger proposal
David Robbins
k1ttt at berkshire.net
Sat Nov 30 14:03:20 EST 1996
The OpenLogger (as my dream logging program is now being called) has
a web site and now a discussion board, we are still working to get
an e-mail reflector. I have received many supporting and interesting
e-mail messages since I first brought up the idea on here and I thank
everyone who has taken the time to send me their thoughts. I am
sorry I haven't had the time to respond to each of you directly, but
with all the contests over the last month I'm sure you can understand.
Its amazing what you can get done on a long contest-free weekend with
lousy weather though. So far this weekend I have pretty much completely
rearranged the architecture section of the web site. It now shows a
more logical breakdown of what the logger should do and how the
functionality may be divided to meet the goals of this project. I have
also specifically listed some big areas that will need help like in
the database design, radio control, platform specific hardware
interfaces, and a couple other things. A while ago there was a move to
come up with a common log format, is that still alive or does anyone
have the results of that effort? I think that may be a useful starting
point for parts of this project.
I have also put up the first actual code attributed to this project.
It is a pretty dumb demo but it was made to prove to myself that some
of the things we have grown used to in dedicated loggers was possible
using Java. Specifically it shows how to make moveable sub-windows
and how to control the tab sequence between data entry fields, some
things that Java doesn't support directly. Look for 'Prototype 1'
under the software section of the web site and if you have a Java
interpretter please give it a try, I would be interested in how it
works on platforms like Mac's and Sun's.
web site:
http://www.berkshire.net/~robbins/logger/index.html
discussion board:
http://www.dtx.net/~foggie/wwwboard/
--
David Robbins K1TTT (ex KY1H)
k1ttt at berkshire.net or robbins at berkshire.net
http://www.berkshire.net/~robbins/k1ttt.html
>From trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) Sat Nov 30 14:05:24 1996
From: trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 6:05:24 PST
Subject: Vanity action and randomness
Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.4.849362724.trey at scv-cse-4.cisco.com>
> Either way, it is important to recognize that the randomness is in the
> process, NOT in the outcome.
Exactly. A colleague of mine in a former life once wrote a random
number generating routine that always returned the number "6". When
asked, his reply was "Well, 6 is as random a number as any other."
Can't argue with that.
--Trey, N5KO
>From promedia at itnet.com.pl (Ltd.) Sat Nov 30 15:23:06 1996
From: promedia at itnet.com.pl (Ltd.) (Ltd.)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:23:06 +-100
Subject: nowe programy logujace w SP
Message-ID: <01BBDED4.4C5B3760 at itnet>
Drodzy Koledzy,
Mamy dobra wiadomosc.
Wlasnie rozpoczelismy rozprowadzanie na zasadach wylacznosci dwoch =
czolowych w swiatowym rankingu programow logujacych.
* Program WJ2O - log stacyjny umozliwiajacy prowadzenie praktycznie =
calej stacyjnej administracji z jednoczesnym podlaczeniem do miejscowego =
clustera, sterowaniem urzadzen takich jak TRX-y czy rotory anten, i to =
kilka na raz. Nie wspominajac o tym, ze umozliwia import ze wszystkich =
popularnych programow obslugi amatorskich zawodow - co jest oczywiste.
* Program TRLog - absolutnie najlepszy program obslugujacy zawody, =
r=F3wnie=BF z opcja typowego QSO. W odroznieniu do np. takiego programu =
jak CT wg K1EA, program TRLog umozliwia wprowadzenie wlasnej =
konfiguracji wybranych zawodow (np. krajowych). Po zapoznaniu sie z =
instrukcja, okaze sie on z pewnoscia takze i duzo latwiejszy w obsludze, =
niz jakikolwiek inny program tego typu.
Firma nasza PROMEDIA sp. z o.o. prowadzona jest przez Adama/SP2HPD i =
Olka/SP2EWQ.=20
Zajmujemy si=EA glownie obsluga innych firm pod wzgl=EAdem reklamowym, =
marketingowym, itp.=20
Jestesmy r=F3wnie=BF dealerem na Polske firmy BENCHER Inc. =
Rozprowadzamy jej produkty, jak r=F3wnie=BF anteny firmy BUTTERNUT - =
firmy, kt=F3ra stala si=EA od pewnego czasu oddzialem BENCHERA.
Zapytania, sugestie, itp. prosimy kierowac:
via e-mail: promedia at itnet.com.pl
poczta w ofrankowanych duzych (A5) kopertach - na adres: PROMEDIA sp. =
z o.o., Jagiellonska 55, 83-110 Tczew
Jesli chodzi o programy, udostepniamy wersje demo, kt=F3re mozemy =
przekazac jako zalacznik do e-mail,=20
lub poczta, jesli przeslana nam zostanie sformatowana dyskietka 3,5" - =
1.44MB.
Zapraszamy,
73
Adam/SP2HPD i Olek/SP2EWQ
promedia at itent.com.pl.
>From HWDX09A at prodigy.com ( ROBERT REED) Sat Nov 30 16:04:00 1996
From: HWDX09A at prodigy.com ( ROBERT REED) ( ROBERT REED)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:04:00, -0500
Subject: Contest Software Under WIN'95
Message-ID: <199611301604.LAA23010 at mime4.prodigy.com>
I've received many messages this morning regarding my concerns using
my contest logging software on a new computer purchase with
Windows'95 pre-installed. K3AR and I0YQV both came through with some
very enlightening information.
The basic answer is that both NA and CT should be run in a DOS mode
which is not the DOS SHELL provided.
The DOS mode seems to be able to be addressed in 2 methods. One is to
use the Shut Down menu and the other to press F8 at startup.
Several people commented that Win'95 was not what they liked and they
had removed it from their systems. Common in comments was that the
installation of Win'95 over an old version lead to problems using
already installed DOS programs. Apparently they are not found
properly unless installed after the Windows'95 software has been
installed. This would seem to agree with those who said their
Windows'95 worked OK on new computers or when they reformatted the
hard drives before installing Windows'95.
One user commented on being successful using CT individually at home
and even visiting a M/M with 3 Windows'95 computers networked
together. I don't recall if he said he used it in the DOS mode but I
would assume so.
Many comments were made regarding Windows'95 stablity over 3.11 which
I was urged to upgrade to even on this machine as much stabler than
the 3.10 I am currently using.
The results look like I can start out with the pre-installed
Windows'95 and look for the DOS mode for contest logging where the
TSR's are not supported in Windows'95.
Thanks for all the comments. Like everyone else I'd like to have a
reasonable idea of what to ask for when jumping into a bigger machine.
____
73, Bob Reed, W2CE, ex WB2DIN
1991 Route 37 West - Lot 109
Toms River, New Jersey 08757
>From twoeow at intf.com (i2eow) Sat Nov 30 17:32:39 1996
From: twoeow at intf.com (i2eow) (i2eow)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:32:39 +0000
Subject: CQWW CW 96 Declared score de I2VXJ
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961130122613.0068746c at intf.com>
<bigger> CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST -- 1996
Call: IG9/I2VXJ Country: African Italy
Mode: CW Category: Single Operator
BAND QSO QSO PTS PTS/QSO ZONES COUNTRIES
80 2078 6211 2.99 32 100
Totals 2078 6211 2.99 32 100 => 819,852
Club Affiliation: MCC Marconi Contest Club
</bigger>
>From kt4ld at juno.com (Andrew H Lewis) Sat Nov 30 18:31:08 1996
From: kt4ld at juno.com (Andrew H Lewis) (Andrew H Lewis)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 13:31:08 EST
Subject: Server undergoing routine m
References: <n1362764036.13884 at maca.sarnoff.com>
Message-ID: <19961130.143340.4415.1.KT4LD at juno.com>
On 27 Nov 1996 18:20:41 U "MACA" <maca at maca.sarnoff.com> writes:
>Mail*Link(r) SMTP Yess!
>
>The vanity callsign system has worked for me today. Today I called the
>FCC and I was issued K4HQ. It was my fourth choice and I was a third
>day
>applicant so there is still hope for those still waiting. Sorry for
>the
>Bandwith.
>
> 73
> K4HQ (Formerly KT4LD)-16
>YEARS OLD-ANDREW LEWIS
What's going on here, I wrote this message Wednesday. I think someone's
playing a prank on me and trying to get me in trouble with my friends on
the reflector? Could this be. Everyone Please note I didn't post the
message at the top to the reflector today but obviously someone else did.
73
K4HQ
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Andrew Lewis 16 YEARS OLD EXTRA CLASS
Formerly:KE4LJM, KE4LJM/AM/,KE4LJM/MA, KE4LJM/3/5/6/7, NA067, KT4LD
Past Operations:ZF2/KT4LD, ZF2ZX, ZF8ZP, 6Y5NR, 6Y5/KT4LD, XE/KT4LD,
XE9LD, KT96LD,KT400LD,KT26LD
QSL Manager for: TF/WF0E, HS0E, HZ1ZM, TF2YE, KT400LD, KT26LD, KT96LD
DXCC, WAS, WAC, WON 1996 ARRL DX PHONE QRP NC, WON CQWW 1995 CQWW PHONE
QRP NC
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>From ke5fi at wt.net (Chuck Dietz) Sat Nov 30 20:02:08 1996
From: ke5fi at wt.net (Chuck Dietz) (Chuck Dietz)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:02:08 -0800
Subject: SRI State of Amateur Radio, contesting, etc etc
References: <CMM.0.90.4.849360107.trey at scv-cse-4.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <32A092C0.455A at wt.net>
Trey Garlough wrote:
> The person who
> was the most mortified that I changed my callsign? My mom. Go figure.
>
> --Trey, N5KO (ex-WN4KKN)
Geez Trey, even I was hoping you would change your call!
Congrats on the new (and MUCH shorter) call. (Only a real contester
would understand!)
Chuck, KE5FI
>From ki8w at netonecom.net (Barry Martz) Sat Nov 30 19:01:56 1996
From: ki8w at netonecom.net (Barry Martz) (Barry Martz)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 14:01:56 -0500
Subject: VANITY RECIPIENTS ONLY
Message-ID: <199611301902.OAA15285 at netone.netonecom.net>
-- [ From: Barry Martz * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Hi. I would like to see the reasons people picked the calls they did. That
should be interesting. Send direct to me and I will post a summary if
people would like to see.
Please use this format:
NEW CALLSIGN: OLD CALLSIGN:
WHAT NUMBER WAS YOUR CALL IN YOUR LIST AND HOW MANY DID YOU APPLY FOR? (ie.
6/25 for the sixth call was chosen out of 25 listed)
DAY APPLICATION WAS FILED:
APPLIED VIA: FEDX, USMAIL, UPS, LOCAL HAD DILIVERY, or EMAIL.
REASON FOR CHOOSING CALLSIGN?
73 DE BARRY/K8BK
>From HWDX09A at prodigy.com ( ROBERT REED) Sat Nov 30 19:02:49 1996
From: HWDX09A at prodigy.com ( ROBERT REED) ( ROBERT REED)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:02:49, -0500
Subject: [DX] QSL requests, etc.
Message-ID: <199611301902.OAA11554 at mime4.prodigy.com>
Paul,
Right on with your comments regarding QSL route requests. After many
people started wising up I was sorry to see Lyndon delete the ban on
QSL info from his FAQ's.
It eventually became a matter of if they won't listen forget the rule
all together. Then again I can't blame Lyndon for backing down
because he was the victim of hundreds of "Why can't I" messages. Look
at the work he does just to make the service work let alone babysit
peoples fights.
Unless the Reflector just becomes overloaded I guess we will have to
put up with whatever is posted. Personally I was pleased to see a
recent QRP'er message and would like them all here. As I stated once
before I don't visit a lot of WWW sites repeatedly. At least the
posting to the DX newsgroup makes them easy to spot.
rec.radio.amateur.dx What is this a newsgroup with no following ?
With the DX Reflector down as long as it was I wonder why no one ever
bothered to start posting messages to the DX newsgroup. It sure is
easy to download a few titles and pick the ones you want to read. We
could even start a few prefixes to group topics QSL DXPED Think
about it.
____
73, Bob Reed, W2CE, ex WB2DIN
1991 Route 37 West - Lot 109
Toms River, New Jersey 08757
>From kt4ld at juno.com (Andrew H Lewis) Sat Nov 30 19:38:06 1996
From: kt4ld at juno.com (Andrew H Lewis) (Andrew H Lewis)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:38:06 EST
Subject: Server undergoing routine m
References: <n1362759807.23515 at maca.sarnoff.com>
Message-ID: <19961130.154049.4415.3.KT4LD at juno.com>
On 27 Nov 1996 18:20:41 U "MACA" <maca at maca.sarnoff.com> writes:
>Mail*Link(r) SMTP Yess!
>
>The vanity callsign system has worked for me today. Today I called the
>FCC and I was issued K4HQ. It was my fourth choice and I was a third
>day
>applicant so there is still hope for those still waiting. Sorry for
>the
>Bandwith.
>
> 73
> K4HQ (Formerly KT4LD)-16
>YEARS OLD-ANDREW LEWIS
Why is this guy continually posting my message from days ago with
avengence! Who is MACA? Is this a figment of my volitile imagination?
73
K4HQ
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Andrew Lewis 16 YEARS OLD EXTRA CLASS
Formerly:KE4LJM, KE4LJM/AM/,KE4LJM/MA, KE4LJM/3/5/6/7, NA067, KT4LD
Past Operations:ZF2/KT4LD, ZF2ZX, ZF8ZP, 6Y5NR, 6Y5/KT4LD, XE/KT4LD,
XE9LD, KT96LD,KT400LD,KT26LD
QSL Manager for: TF/WF0E, HS0E, HZ1ZM, TF2YE, KT400LD, KT26LD, KT96LD
DXCC, WAS, WAC, WON 1996 ARRL DX PHONE QRP NC, WON CQWW 1995 CQWW PHONE
QRP NC
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>From john.devoldere at innet.be (John Devoldere) Sat Nov 30 10:44:18 1996
From: john.devoldere at innet.be (John Devoldere) (John Devoldere)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:44:18 +0000
Subject: help on a T2X (tailtwister) rotator
Message-ID: <199611302030.VAA04527 at mail.be.innet.net>
A friend has a T2X rotator, and he bruned the potmeter in the rotator. I
know there are one or two companies that specialise in selling parts and
even "improvement" kits for these rotators. Can anyone help me with names,
addresses, and possibly E-mail adresses?
Tks
Sorry for the BW
John, ON4UN
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john.devoldere at innet.be
Call us in all major 1996 contests: ON4UN (OT6T in WPX)
John Devoldere (ON4UN-AA4OI)
POBOX 41
B-9000 Ghent (Belgium)
>From sp5grm at wne.uw.edu.pl (Zbig Leszczynski) Sat Nov 30 20:42:17 1996
From: sp5grm at wne.uw.edu.pl (Zbig Leszczynski) (Zbig Leszczynski)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:42:17 +0100 (MET)
Subject: SP7GIQ in cqww
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961130204844.089f9abe at coin.wne.uw.edu.pl>
operated SO 40m
2361 QSO 5065 points 39 zone 139 Cty Total:901,570
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*********************-oOO-(_)-OOo-******************************************
Zbigniew Leszczynski SP5GRM, Powstancow 10, 09-200 Sierpc, Poland
E-mail: sp5grm at coin.wne.uw.edu.pl <>AmprNet: sp5grm at sr4tcp.ampr.org
tel./fax: +(24)75-21-21
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>From brad4 at roanoke.infi.net (Melvin G. Brafford) Sat Nov 30 21:16:58 1996
From: brad4 at roanoke.infi.net (Melvin G. Brafford) (Melvin G. Brafford)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:16:58 -0500
Subject: CQ contest rules query
Message-ID: <199611302117.QAA32470 at mh004.infi.net>
In your opinion, is it legal per the cq rules to move stations from other
bands to the band you are submitting as a single op, single band entry ? I
didn't do it, but it sure is tempting after cqing for hours on 10 with few
replies. I asked the same question on our east coast packet cluster and got
5 yes and 1 no. Wonder what the real answer is?
Thimk.
73, Mick
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