[CQ-Contest] Packet Pileups -> Breaking Pileups

steve nn4t at bellsouth.net
Mon Dec 4 11:28:05 EST 2000

No Yuri, it doesn't make you weird. It doesn't make you right, either.
Packet is just another technology, like others before it, that is impacting
amateur radio. In the case of packet, which no one has to use unless they
wish to, its impact is positive, overall. This is because the causal
operators, looking to boost their DXCC, WAZ, WAS or other totals use packet
to find stations they need to work. The result is more QSOs and higher
scores. It has been suggested here that packet makes one a poor or lazy
operator. I disagree. I believe that all technology, packet included, is
neutral. Whether of not one becomes a good contester, an accomplished DXer
or whatever, depends on how that technology is used. That knowledge comes
from lots of listening as well as the sharing of ideas via journals and
reflectors such as this one. With the internet we can mentor someone half a
world away. Why can't we focus on good operating skills, which, if you
choose, includes the use of packet during a contest effort. Anything beyond
that is a personal choice by the operator and is no one else's business. 73,
Steve, NN4T.From: <K3BU at aol.com>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Packet Pileups -> Breaking Pileups

> In a message dated 12/4/2000 9:41:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
w5gn at mxg.com
> writes:
> > Packet spots
> >  let me do that in minimum time with minimum impact
> >  on other interests. And I get a check-out of my station
> >  in each of those pile-ups for spots so  I will do better
> >  when I do enter a contest seriously.
> Just like going into the ZOO with loaded gun will
> "let me do that with minimum impact on other interests..."
> and shoot the bunch of animals without having to find them on my own in
> contest jungle.
> Sounds ridiculous? Maybe not to some.
> I wouldn't get satisfaction from that, actually I would be ashamed!
> Again, just like lists and nets and last two spoiled and devalued DXing
> DXCC (reason I couldn't be bothered to chase DX anymore, means nothing to
> I see a day when packet will spoil contesting, and it looks like it is
> already doing it, see OL5Y's wondering.
> It would be interesting for log checkers to check the suspect logs of some
> the multiplier leaders to see how long it took and how often, to work the
> multiplier in S&P mode or second radio, after it was spotted on the packet
> their area.
> If someone worked about 30 multipliers shortly after they were announced
> the packet, then something is fishy in that log!!!
> Just like HG1S was defending their "brilliant" operating skills (of
> multiple signals), only to be nailed by their own and other's logs. What
> egg in the face!!!
> I think it is time to wake up and give it a serious consideration.
> I would rather see us preserving the sanity of contesting and doing our
> hunting rather than deteriorating to the ZOO thing. Just stop and think
> are we heading. If one cannot obey and compete by the rules, then take up
> shooting animals in the ZOO, more fun and it makes big bang too.
> Yuri, K3BU
> I like driving my own (big old) car, eating my own food, having my own
> building my own station, chasing my own multipliers and Qs..... 'cause
> me feel good and achieving something, am I too old fashioned or too weird?
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