[CQ-Contest] Re: First Robot Op Competition

Tue Nov 21 00:39:45 EST 2000

>... I am pleased to announce the First Robot Op Competition.

The fact that something is possible, no matter how difficult or
how much of a challenge it may be, doesn't necessarily imbue it
with merit.

Perhaps we can look forward to ARRL announcing robot categories
for DXCC.

73,
Paul EI5DI
(another Luddite?)

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>From Goran Fagerstrom" <tjanste at algonet.se  Tue Nov 21 13:00:06 2000
From: Goran Fagerstrom" <tjanste at algonet.se (Goran Fagerstrom)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:00:06 +0100
Subject: [CQ-Contest] First Robot Op Competition
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Pete, N4ZR, announced a thought-provoking award for a robot that =
achieves 2 megapoints. On his "running blind" rule 3, i.e.

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3.  Stations will compete in the Single Op Assisted category.  Logs will =
be
submitted to CQ for scoring without any indication that they were =
generated
by a robot operator, and results will therefore be validated on a blind =
basis...
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Somehow I like this approach, "be judged in the same way as all =
humans"... But it also reminds me of a parallel from another field, =
namely computer chess. A big monetary prize was put up to the first =
computer program that could beat a human grandmaster, and eventually =
Kasparov (who is not any grandmaster) was beaten by IBM's program Deep =
Blue in a match. So the prize stimulated a huge amount of software =
development -- how about doing the same, Pete, why stop with a plaque?! =
It surely would be worth it.

Also, when the chess programs became sufficiently good, they were =
permitted to compete in tournaments with human players, and for many =
humans that was a rude awakening (since earlier programs played =
ridiculously stupid in some situations).  However, I think that the =
rules were that any human could veto having a computer in his group =
(typically, lower classes in big tournaments have hundreds of players =
with myriads of groups. For psychological reasons, some players became =
so spooked.

Question is: How would contesters all over the world have a chance to =
veto a program they are working, hi?  In fact, I guess some ragchewing =
goes on between humans and computers already.

Sincerely,
Goran/SM0DRD

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