[CQ-Contest] Dupes and computer logs

[Kenneth E. Harker]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:20:56PM -0400, Guy Olinger wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm going to ask this question again. I've never gotten an answer.
> 
> Let's say that I work W7W?Y. I never for sure get the call right. He
> fades out, or the pileup that forms after I discover him and call him
> buries him.
> 
> HOW DO I LEAVE IT IN THE LOG SO
> 
>    1) It's clear to the contest committee that I have no intention of
> claiming credit and I'm not criminally trying to sneak in a point.

You didn't make a QSO, so it shouldn't be in the log.
 
>    2) W7WHY doesn't get penalized for claiming a nil QSO. After all he
> didn't do anything wrong.

Assuming you didn't give W7WHY a reason to believe that you did copy his
call and information correctly, he shouldn't put you in his log either.  
If he does, he deserves a NIL.  He didn't make the QSO any more than you did.
 
>    3) If I later work W7WHY (and since not intending to claim credit for
> the first, and for that matter not sure it was him I tried to work the
> first time) not have it dumped as a duplicate to an earlier QSO that I
> got penalized for that I was trying not to claim.

Always work dupes.  The log checking software should be smart enough to 
figure this situation out and not discredit your valid contact.

>   4) Something simple and clear to "NO CLAIM" the QSO in TR and in the
> Cabrillo Format.

This feature isn't necessary, as you're only going to log actual contacts.

> IT IS NOT CLEAR HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
> 
> --... ...--  . ...  --.  .-..
> 
> Regards, Guy
> k2av at contesting.com
> Apex, NC
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <n6tr at teleport.com>
> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>; <k1ep at arrl.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dupes and computer logs
> 
> 
> >
> > > As long as you ignore the right one.  IF you keep the one that
> > > isn't in the other guy's log and through out the one that is,
> > > then you might get a NIL.  I certainly hope that the software
> > > doesn't work that way.
> >
> > This is an important point.  When a NIL is found - the software needs
> > to "undupe" the second QSO and try again.  If a match is found, then
> > the first QSO is marked as a dupe.
> >
> > Again, this has been a constant feature of the software I have
> > written.
> >
> > Tree
> >
> >
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