[CQ-Contest] Dupes and computer logs

[Guy Olinger, K2AV]

> On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:20:56PM -0400, Guy Olinger wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm going to ask this question again. I've never gotten an
answer.
> >
> > Let's say that I work W7W?Y. I never for sure get the call right. He
> > fades out, or the pileup that forms after I discover him and call
him
> > buries him.
> >
> > HOW DO I LEAVE IT IN THE LOG SO
> >
> >    1) It's clear to the contest committee that I have no intention
of
> > claiming credit and I'm not criminally trying to sneak in a point.
>
> You didn't make a QSO, so it shouldn't be in the log.
>
> >    2) W7WHY doesn't get penalized for claiming a nil QSO. After all
he
> > didn't do anything wrong.
>
> Assuming you didn't give W7WHY a reason to believe that you did copy
his
> call and information correctly, he shouldn't put you in his log
either.
> If he does, he deserves a NIL.  He didn't make the QSO any more than
you did.

****  IS THERE AN INNOCENT WAY FOR HIM TO LOG ME? YES. ****

I hear him as W7WHY and give him an exchange, he comes back, gives me an
exchange, and drops his call as W7WSY, and all of a sudden I'm not sure
what his call is as he disappears. NOT HIS FAULT I blew his call.  HOW
DO I KEEP HIM FROM GETTING A NIL I realize I blew his call and I really
don't have a Q. How do I get it out of his log?

I need a way to "NO CLAIM" a QSO in the log.

IF THE LOG CHECKERS ARE GOING TO BE PICKY, PICKY, THE RULES HAVE TO
HANDLE THE SITUATIONS.

Right now if I leave it in the log, I get penalized. If I take it out he
gets penalized. NO INTENT to defraud either way.

>
> >    3) If I later work W7WHY (and since not intending to claim credit
for
> > the first, and for that matter not sure it was him I tried to work
the
> > first time) not have it dumped as a duplicate to an earlier QSO that
I
> > got penalized for that I was trying not to claim.
>
> Always work dupes.  The log checking software should be smart enough
to
> figure this situation out and not discredit your valid contact.
>
> >   4) Something simple and clear to "NO CLAIM" the QSO in TR and in
the
> > Cabrillo Format.
>
> This feature isn't necessary, as you're only going to log actual
contacts.
>
> > IT IS NOT CLEAR HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
> >
> > --... ...--  . ...  --.  .-..
> >
> > Regards, Guy
> > k2av at contesting.com
> > Apex, NC
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <n6tr at teleport.com>
> > To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>; <k1ep at arrl.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 1:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dupes and computer logs
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > As long as you ignore the right one.  IF you keep the one that
> > > > isn't in the other guy's log and through out the one that is,
> > > > then you might get a NIL.  I certainly hope that the software
> > > > doesn't work that way.
> > >
> > > This is an important point.  When a NIL is found - the software
needs
> > > to "undupe" the second QSO and try again.  If a match is found,
then
> > > the first QSO is marked as a dupe.
> > >
> > > Again, this has been a constant feature of the software I have
> > > written.
> > >
> > > Tree
> > >
> > >
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