[CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime Scoring Site

[David Robbins]

not quite there yet, but you can watch my 'live' webcam with updates every 5
minutes during major contests.  i have also been playing at making timelapse
video's of contests, its kind of fun to watch cqww ssb in about 6 minutes with
all the operators jumping around at warp speed.  i would like to stream
audio/video but don't have the bandwidth available here in the sticks to do it.

realtime score reporting has its ups and downs, i think it could provide some
real incentive to some operators to perform better if they could see what the
'big boys' are doing.  on the other hand, it could discourage others who see
themselves falling behind.  it would provide some interesting 'spectator'
aspects, but it must be used fairly widely so there are a good representation of
scores available and then it would have to be advertised so that
non-participants find it interesting.  probably the best way to do that would be
in conjunction with a wrtc event, watching real time scores of the wrtc
participants along with some real time pictures on the web would provide some
real possibilities for attracting new blood.

"Leigh S. Jones" wrote:
> 
> We'd all be pleased to see the invention of new ways to improve
> the "spectator sports" aspects of our beloved hobby, but this is
> not the top priority.  The top priority is making the competitive
> field fair and fun.  I'd enjoy, for instance, seeing a "news event"
> simulcast of the CQWW showing sounds and faces of the
> operators in action.
> 
> At the same time I realize that the introduction of anything that
> would unsettle the competitive balance and result in an unfair
> competition would damage contesting beyond belief.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz at topsusa.com>
> To: "cq contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime Scoring Site
> 
> >
> >
> > My thoughts interspersed among the comments
> >
> > 73
> > Red
> > K0LUZ
> >
> > >
> > > >One problem is that giving away your score in real time helps
> > > >others to overtake you, if needed, or helps others to stay ahead
> > > >of you if already ahead.
> > >
> > > Good point - didn't think of that.  I guess I was mostly thinking
> > > about it in terms of attracting others to the sport/hobby.
> >
> > It would be very interesting and add another element to the
> participants of
> > the contest.  Why does everything have to be so "secret"?  Going
> back to
> > NASCAR,  do they make the cars invisible so that they can "protect"
> their
> > information?
> >
> > >
> > > >In the last minutes of the contest you could make a decision
> whether to
> > > >make a band change or stay put, etc., based on the knowledge
> > > >that you needed a given level of performance to win.
> > >
> > > And this is placing more importance on the amount of technology
> > > available to the operator,  and less on her knowledge of
> propagation
> > > and skill.  Another good point.
> >
> > It's another advance in technology and if that's a problem... Ban
> the
> > computer,  ban memory keys or dvp's,  ban SO2R,  and antennas above
> 35' in
> > height!  You can't stop progress Brother....
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Drawing a parallel with auto racing, under the present system,
> without
> > > >realtime scoring information, each entrant competes on a
> > > >different racetrack with no view of his competitors position
> > > >relative to his own.
> > >
> > > This was the exact analogy I was making in my mind when I
> > > was thinking about this idea.  More exciting for the spectators,
> > > but the race team *must* have this information available to them
> > > at all times in order to remain competitive.  Did that guy take 2
> tires
> > > or 4?  Did he take 2 hours off time or 4?  Guess that's why all
> > > the race teams have small tv dishes in their pits.
> >
> > I believe it would add another very interesting element to the fray.
> In
> > fact,  you might even get some "others" because they can set up real
> live
> > competitions with a group.  Some of the real techie groups might see
> this as
> > a neat thing to do with the computer.  Let's go after those gamers!
> >
> > >
> > > And certainly another catagory (SO/REALTIME/ASSISTED) [ugh]
> > > wouldn't help, as the info is freely available to everyone.  I
> should've
> > > thought this out a lil more,  perhaps left it in my outbox until
> the
> > > caffeine wore off.  Gotta admit though,  it would be pretty cool.
> >
> > This is different because the participant is the one who decides if
> they
> > want to be part of real time.  Assisted is not in the control of the
> > participant,  but the spotter.  So it could be another category, but
> why?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Rich, KA8OKH
> > >
> > >
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