[CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted discrimination

[Marijan Miletic, S56A]

Is there anything wrong in using two PC controlled radios, bandmaps,
master.dta AND DX Cluster
for even more fun in a real time 24-48 hours computer game called hamradio
contesting?

I've done enough plain S&P since 1962.

73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Guy Olinger, K2AV
  To: CQ Contest
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 10:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted discrimination



  At a multi, an operator constantly scanning a band while another op is
  running the same band will find more stuff than watching the packet for
  that band.

  You don't have to worry about signals you can't hear.

  Spots are often cold. Spots often have the call sign wrong. A brand new
  spot usually means a pile of calling stations on frequency, some who
  haven't even heard the spotted station yet.

  Running one band, and using SO2R to S&P another is the peak of single
  op. It is a truly difficult skill to master, BUT it really takes the
  boredom out of running.

  Why hypnotize yourself listening to your own CQ's. Synchronize and SO2R
  another band. Forget the packet. Be proud of your own score.

  73
  -----------------

  Guy Olinger, K2AV
  Apex, NC, USA

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "CYBERGURUES" <lw9euj at ciudad.com.ar>
  To: "Cq-Contest at Contesting." <cq-contest at contesting.com>
  Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 7:00 PM
  Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted discrimination


  >
  > Hi all:
  >
  > Most Contesters do not cheat. That's true.
  > Searching and Pouncing is better than packet, especially if the
  cluster you
  > use is on the other side of the planet. If you plan to go SOAB try
  using 2
  > radios. My father built for me a small box that automatically switches
  the
  > audio to the second rig when the PTT of rig A is activated. This
  allows you
  > to be listening all the time. There is little need to listen to your
  > transmitted signal, so you can concentrate 100% on what you receive.
  It
  > takes practice, but the overall result worth all the training. I'll
  use it
  > during next CQ WW DX CW.
  > Although Packet cheaters are hard to discover, single op. techniques
  now
  > give you the tools to beat them.
  > SO2R is even useful for single band efforts. You will work more mults
  and Qs
  > while they are busy watching the spots and trying to work and find
  what
  > others possibly with bigger antennas have worked. My point is that it
  is
  > faster to work what you hear rather than trying to work what others do
  .
  > Go SO2R!!!
  >
  > 73
  > Martin, LW9EUJ
  >
  > PS: Goran, This was not my opinion months ago, but if you look at all
  the
  > available reading material on SO2R, etc. You'll realize, as I did,
  that
  > packeters have no longer advantage over real single ops.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Frank Norton KB8XU <franknorton at home.com>
  > To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
  > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 6:20 AM
  > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted discrimination
  >
  >
  > >
  > > Hello all,
  > >
  > > No Goran,most people are not "cheating" as u put it, many simply
  don't use
  > > spotting of any kind (other than their own scanning and band
  > > mapping).  Many of us have found that packet spotting is a waste of
  > > resources and time.  We have found our time better utilized by
  searching
  > > diligently for "the WEAK ONES" that others blow by and these
  certainly
  > > never get posted on a spotting net of any type.  Another vital
  > > point-->there really are a vast number of locations that only have
  > electric
  > > service 12 hours per day little lone a satellite internet
  connection.  We
  > > really need a single op unassisted, high or low power
  segment---simply
  > > because that is the reality for a very large proportion of hams.
  Some by
  > > choice, but many by the very nature of their QTH or station ability.
  > >
  > > You are correct Goran, there are some op's who cheat, but as long as
  you
  > > are honest and your performance is improving each contest---> you
  are
  > > winning!  The cheaters cheat themselves.  They also tend to get
  caught, or
  > > at least become infamous!  If a station is besting thier closest
  rival by
  > > 30%--> committees are going to take a very hard look at them, and so
  are
  > > the rest of us!
  > >
  > > I believe we should ENJOY each and every contest that we can enter.
  They
  > > are rare opportunities to test ourselves and our stations. Try and
  beat
  > > yourself each time and you are a winner!  I also believe that this
  method
  > > will allow you to win your section, country or whatever division you
  have
  > > as your goal.  If a cheater does make it all the way to the winners
  > circle,
  > > the "win" has no meaning and must have a very bitter
  taste....because the
  > > cheaters have fouled their eating place, if u are familiar with the
  > > saying.  "NEVER {FOUL} WHERE YOU EAT".
  > >
  > > Hang in there fellow contester!  Honesty will win out.
  > >
  > > As an acquaintance of mine used to sign all of his
  eMail--"CONTESTING IS!"
  > >
  > > 73 de KB8XU Frank
  > >
  > >
  > >


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