[CQ-Contest] Re: Four things to look for in CQ WW ?

k7qq at juno.com k7qq at juno.com
Sun Oct 21 17:20:13 EDT 2001



It really shouldn't be that difficult to find cheaters with cabrillo logs
 , The freq of the tx is given for those who use computer control.  These
are the ones that are able to select a pkt spot and go imedately to that
freq then return to orriginal freq.  The S& P guy will have these mults
show up as he tunes up or down the band.  

Quack  aka K7QQ

On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:09:19 +0200 Jan.E.Holm at telia.se writes:
> 
> > 
> > Saturday 20th October 2001
> > 
> > Hello all
> Comments to your points:
> 
> 1. Not 100% true. A good SOSB op will be able to snag mults
>    coming up pritty quick, sometimes faster then cluster
>    spots.
> 
> 2. Not true. I can hold my "run" frequency and still work
>    mults on the same band, I just have to be quiet on run
>    frequency a few secs now and then. Being a not so rare
>    SM I will not have big rate runs and that will give me
>    time to scan the band "almost" at the same time as I 
>    run stations. Also if I´m a good op I know when to look
>    for different stations in different areas etc etc.
> 
> 3. Not true either. A good SOSB station can indeed have 
>    "just about" as good multiplier total as "most" M/M´s.
>    Where do you draw the line? When does my mult count 
>    get excessive? These are very shady ground.
> 
> 4. Also incorrect. As a active ham (dxer/contester) I 
>    certainly will not make simple misstakes like that.
> 
> Bottom line: If you want to nail people for cheeting that
> is just fine and certainly should be done but these criterias
> stipulated by GM3WOJ doesn´t hold water at all. If someone
> is to be DQ´ed it has to be on very good grounds and not
> on "shady" areas like these.  
> 
> 73 Jim SM2EKM 
> 
> > 
> > With the CQ WW contests imminent, the CQ WW Committee
> > have stated that they intend to find and penalise those stations 
> who 
> > use the DXCluster, but enter as Unassisted.  This process is
> > difficult, and open to a lot of discussion and debate. 
> > Unfortunately,
> > several high-profile European SOSB stations seem to have slipped 
> > through the net, and their callsigns appear again in last year's 
> > results.
> > There are 4 characteristics which might help identify these 
> stations
> > this year -
> > 
> > During the contest -
> > 1.   they will appear on the frequency of a DXspot within a few
> > minutes of the spot appearing - the time delay may depend on
> > the type of spot - a big Multi-Multi may be called after a few
> > minutes, whereas a rare SOAB, M/S or casual operator mult.
> > may be called very quickly.
> > 2.   they will be able to hold their run frequency for long 
> periods
> > - even all day in some cases - obviously this requires a good
> > station and antennas, but they will spending a lot less time
> > searching/finding/identifying/calling/working mults. than other
> > stations.
> > 
> > After the contest -
> > 3.  their score will have a mult. total (mainly country mults.) 
> > which
> > is 'out of proportion' to the number of QSOs made i.e.
> > excessively high - possibly higher than big Multi-Multi stations
> > (who will have been using the DXCluster and passing mults.
> > between bands)
> > 4.  their UBN analysis will show a 'normal' UBN percentage,
> > but a higher than average 'points lost' percentage - for example
> > BB9BB      -2.00      -8.10
> > CC9CC     -2.00      -8.30
> > DD9DD     -2.00    -10.20
> > EE9EE      -2.00      -8.40
> > Station DD9DD has been 'pecking' mults. from the DXCluster,
> > but has worked one or more multipliers where the spotted
> > callsign was wrong.
> > 
> > For each of the above factors there are other possible
> > explanations, but any station who has 2 or more of the above
> > is suspect.
> > 
> > Why are we so interested in this ? - well, as things stand here
> > in Europe, you are wasting your time if you enter SOSB on
> > some of the bands.
> > 
> > Some food for thought....
> > 
> > 73
> > Chris     GM3WOJ/GZ7V
> > www.gm7v.com
> > 
> > 
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