[CQ-Contest] Packetless contesting

Thu Feb 21 10:17:47 EST 2002

Hay Guys and Gals, it is nice to know that the idea of  shutting down all
the DXClusters is having a growing intrest . This would also definitely
bring a solution to the cheating business in Assisted and Not assisted
entries.
Remember the topic on the Contest reflector last year and my comments (déja
vu ) .
But probably some of the big guns will disagree . I think as John N2NC says
in his mail that the challenge is big and maybe it will bring back the days
where we had nothing else than our own abilities to find what was available
. 

Contests should not be won by the Nr of Dxclusters that one can see but with
the skills to replace them and do as good or even better.....

See You all next time in the WPXSSB at OT2A and WPXCW as CT7T

73 and enjoy the hobby,

Jim - ON5UM

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>From Steve Daniel" <nn4t at bellsouth.net  Thu Feb 21 12:41:36 2002
From: Steve Daniel" <nn4t at bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:41:36 -0600
Subject: [CQ-Contest] quiet 17" monitor
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Another simple solution is a flat screen. They are dropping rapidly in price
and cause no noise at all that I can detect. An added bonus is they have a
dramatically smaller foot print and look really cool! Steve, NN4T.
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From: "Bruce Thivierge" <bruce_thivierge at hotmail.com>
To: <k6ll at juno.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] quiet 17" monitor

>
> I also picked up a new 17" Envision monitor this weekend. It is an
EN-770e.
> Paid quite a bit more than you did (ahem) but it is also very quiet so far
> (fingers crossed). Maybe we're onto something here?
>
> 73 Bruce W1RJ
>
> >
> >
> >Staples ran a sale this past weekend on the Envision EN-710E
> >17" Computer Monitor. It was $59 delivered, after rebates and
> >coupons.
> >
> >I just got mine, and I can't hear a peep out of this monitor on
> >any of the HF Ham Bands. It looks like a good bet, if you can find
> >it on sale again. It looks good, too. I haven't transmitted with
> >it yet.
> >
> >Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> >Yuma, AZ
> >K6LL at juno.com
> >
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>From Steve Daniel" <nn4t at bellsouth.net  Thu Feb 21 13:10:34 2002
From: Steve Daniel" <nn4t at bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:10:34 -0600
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contests and Packet
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I have followed the "real men don't use packet" theme for at least 5 years
now and still do not understand it. As there are assisted and non-assisted
single-op categories the line there is easily drawn. When it comes to
multi-op situations, however, I really do not understand. Isn't the object
to make as many Q's/mults as possible during the contest period so as to
maximize your score? Isn't packet simply one more tool to use in this quest?
Isn't integrating packet into the multi-op environment in a way that
increases efficiency and score a worthy goal? How is this different from any
other of the tools we use to increase our scores?
This is a hobby and is suppose to be fun. If this floats your boat, go for
it. Implying, however, that eliminating packet somehow makes your effort
more "pure" and of greater value is just your ego talking.
P.S. If you guys really want to impress us, how about a multiop where no one
goes to the bathroom for 48 hours? My guess is that would take care of any
problem with operators falling asleep on the job! Steve, NN4T.----- Original
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From: "Bill Snider" <k6km at cncnet.com>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:03 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contests and Packet

>
> I've long been an advocate for shutting down all packet during
> major (TBD) contests. So far, support for this idea has been
> nonexistent. Maybe it isn't as important now that we can access
> spotting data via the internet.
>
> In the past, nodemeisters had the power to elimnate their contest
> competition merely by locking 'em out of their cluster. It happened
> to me. It could happen again to anyone who wants to do a serious
> multiop without internet access.
>
> I'm not one to negate techincal progress and I envy those who
> have found new ways to make bigger scores through tech innovation.
> BUT local packet did and maybe still does give too much
> power to the node sysop.
>
> Shields up.
>
> Bill K6KM
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