[CQ-Contest] RES: D4B QRT

PY5EG py5eg at iesa.com.br
Thu Oct 6 18:56:15 EDT 2005


Hi All:

I'm defending most of the suggestions  circulated on the list at the Contest
Advisory Committee, and is not easy to promote changes on the present rules.
I understand that we contesters should put pressure on the organizers to
change and adequate the rules to this new technology environment.
Some of us, including Al, have launched a idea to submit the logs in 48
hours and to permit total disclosure of the logs to the contest community.
Very few contesters bought the movement and we got no answer from the
organizers.
Lets use this unpleasant D4B notice as a alert and a instrument to move us
in direction of a new era in contest activity.
Best regards
Oms PY5EG

-----Mensagem original-----
De: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] Em nome de K3BU at aol.com
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 6 de outubro de 2005 10:38
Para: cq-contest at contesting.com
Assunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] D4B QRT

In a message dated 10/6/2005 8:21:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
guy_molinari at hotmail.com writes:

>>As to the cheating issue, perhaps some of these problems could be 
>>resolved
by introducing a new
level of transparency to contest adjudication.   Perhaps a real-time 
logging/scoreboard infrastructure?   This is asolvable problem given 
Internet technology available today.  << I don't think it will work, who is
going to watch? Complexity required with voluntary  support (can't get the
certificates out, how you going to do this)?

The real solution is to post the complete logs after the contest log
deadline. This way "beaten" - the best "judges", will be able to scrutinize
the logs and spot the problems. Plus it would be a great learning tool for
"losers" to see where they blew it, or what could they have done. This of
course requires sponsor TO ACT on some blatant violations. K1TTT postings
didn't seem to inspire much of that.

The other venue is to publicize the violators of rules on the Internet. That
borders on being called sore loser, as it happened to me after pointing out
"famous 300W" operation by IH9/IV3TAN running somewhere around 20 kW on 160
m and still "proudly" figuring in the world record listings. 

So what's the solution? Are we "inspired" to match the cheaters and do it on
"all you can cheat" level? Or will the contest committees do some cleanup?

Here I go again (CQ WW) with my beef to make contest better: Post the logs
on Internet, remove silly 3 QSO penalty, give everyone 3 points per QSO (no
tropics scoring advantage) and count own country QSOs, no packet during the
contest,  don't water down the results with "SO2R3A..." categories.

For those who are going to tell me to come up with better contest, I did:
http://www.computeradio.us/TeslaCup.htm
See you all in 2006 running, Tesla's 150th anniversary.

Yuri, K3BU.us
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