[CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating

[David Robbins K1TTT]

Come on mal, one contact does not a cheating pattern make... lets have some
real data!


David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of N7MAL
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 07:10
> To: Ken Widelitz; Cq-Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating
> 
> What an interesting posting Ken. In a single posting you validated what I
> said about my participation in the contest and the fact that I had been
> spotted several times on the cluster. You then proceeded to make the
> majority of the rest of your posting about you and your effort.
> Unfortunately and sadly, very sadly, Ken you managed to get some facts
> mixed-up. Because you got your facts mixed-up I am going to show you, and
> others, exactly how well I have last years SS documented.
> N2IC Steve in New Mexico posted this information:
> W6ZZZ      3563.1 N7MAL                                     0430 07 Nov
> 2004
> It is a copy of a spot during the SS showing at 0430Z W6ZZZ spotted me on
> my run freq.
> 
> At 0436Z I worked K6LA on 3563, he sent me number 628 and I sent K6LA my
> number 262.
> Ken submitted his log as a 'B'(single op).
> Ken in his own words claimed to have not worked me.
> Yet he did work me and worked me a few minutes after I was spotted, what
> an amazing set of coincidences...!!...(also the QSO is confirmed on LOTW)
> I never did any S&P on 75m only a run freq.
> 
> I'm not accusing Ken of anything. Ken has been around a long time and is
> an excellent contester. He shows up in my master logbook 15 times in many
> various and different contests since the year 2000. He doesn't need packet
> spots to find and work me 300 miles  away.  OOOORRRR
> 
> This is exactly why I won't publish names and
> callsigns........................................
> 
> MAL         N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
> http://geocities.com/n7mal/
> Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
> It's already tomorrow in Australia
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ken Widelitz
>   To: Cq-Contest Reflector
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:57
>   Subject: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating
> 
> 
>   Mal, N7MAL, complained about being worked by stations in the single op
>   category after his station was spotted in SS & NAQP. In his post he
> stated
>   "If it happened once, or maybe even twice, it might be coincidence but
> over
>   several contests it is no longer coincidence but cheating."
> 
> 
>   While watching the Angels/White Sox game I compiled the following
> statistics
>   from 2001 - 2005 regarding ALL of N7MAL's reported operations from the
> ARRL
>   web site, the CQ-CONTEST 3830 archives and DX Summit:
> 
>   YEAR/Contest      QSOs     Spots
> 
>   04 CW SS            477            5
>   03 CW SS            309            3
>   02 CW SS            367            3
>   01 PH SS              77             0
>   01 CW SS            220            0
> 
>   05 CW NAQP        360            1
>   04 CW NAQP        492            1
> 
> 
>   I would note the following:
> 
>   1. In each contest I made considerably more QSOs and was spotted fewer
>   times. Why is this significant? Because, especially in SS, and
> especially on
>   Sunday, "new blood" is much desired. I know I am constantly tuning the
> 2nd
>   radio looking for "new blood." Every serious SS competitor is doing the
> same
>   thing. Given, generally, in the last few years only 2 bands have
> significant
>   activity, if you are SO2R, you are tuning just one band. You will find a
> new
>   station relatively quickly without cheating.
>   2. If I hear a pileup - or see one on the bandscope, it attracts my
>   attention, without the use of packet.
>   3. There is a category of Unlimited in SS. That is a single op assisted
>   category. It is becoming more popular and those single ops DO get to
> jump on
>   packet spots legally. Spots of "new blood" gets attention from this
>   category.
>   4. The sample size of spots about which N7MAL is complaining is VERY
> small.
>   However, given the small sample size, if the same single op station
> worked
>   N7MAL in 2002, 2003 and 2004 within a few minutes of his being spotted,
> it
>   would raise my eyebrows.
>   5. In checking my own logs, I see I worked N7MAL in 2001 when he had
> zero
>   spots. I didn't work N7MAL in 2002, 2003 or 2004. Guess I wasn't tuning
> the
>   2nd radio hard enough.
> 
>   73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
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