[CQ-Contest] Cheating

Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr at contesting.com
Sat Aug 4 03:19:04 PDT 2012

While I'd like to claim that the Reverse Beacon Network can do this, 
there are a couple of reasons why not. First, the time of a spot is 
reported only to the nearest minute.  Second, the time shown is when CW 
Skimmer determined that the callsign had been sufficiently validated to 
warrant spotting it.  This can happen over a relatively long period, 
even over a number of transmissions, so long as the station remains on 
the same frequency.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 8/3/2012 11:51 AM, Juan Hidalgo EA8CAC wrote:
> Hi !!
> .....Not only with 2 stations running at same time without interlock......
> It is very interesting  to ckeck RBN files on the web
> http://www.reversebeacon.net/raw_data/#201207 (sunday 15/07/2012)  to see
> how one M/S station worked with 3 signals at same time on 2 different
> bands.
> *4.2. Multi Operator, Single Transmitter, Mixed Mode only*
> *          4.2.1. Must remain on a band and mode for at least 10 minutes
> before changing bands or modes.*
> *          4.2.2. Only one transmitted signal is allowed at any given time.*
> * You are not allowed a second radio that works only
> multipliers.*
> *          4.2.3. All operators must observe the amateur radio regulations
> of their country at all times.*
> *           4.2.4. Violation of the band change rules will reclassify the
> entry as a check-log.*
> 73s
> 2012/7/18 Tree <tree at kkn.net>
>> Hello fellow contesters.
>> Let me preface this message by first saying that I believe 99.9 percent of
>> contesters play by the rules.  This message talks about the 0.01 percent
>> who don't.  Also - let me say that this message is a personal message from
>> me - and does not in anyway represent an offical communication from any of
>> the organizations I do log checking for (ARRL and CQ and the Boring ARC).
>> During the recent IARU Radiosport contest - I was operating from 9V1YC in a
>> multi-single.  This is the first time I have operated this contest in this
>> category - and to be frank - I didn't really know the rules.  Having read
>> them - I find that transmitting with two signals at the same time is not
>> allowed.  Here is what the rule says:
>>    4.2. Multi Operator, Single Transmitter, Mixed Mode only
>>                4.2.1. Must remain on a band and mode for at least 10 minutes
>> before changing bands or modes.
>>                4.2.2. Only one transmitted signal is allowed at any given
>> time.
>> I think this is pretty clear.  This really seems to limit the operation to
>> that of a single radio - with people taking turns using it.
>> However, I am sure some stations will push the envelope here and have a
>> second station which is operating on the same band/mode as the "run"
>> radio.  In order to prevent only one transmitted signal at a time -
>> interlocks would have to be used.  This would be fine and would be a
>> competitive advantage wihtout breaking the rules.  They would only have one
>> signal transmitted at any given time.
>> Well - during the IARU contest - our station observed one very well known
>> multi-single station who was not using an interlock and had two independant
>> stations running people on each end of the band.  We listened in stereo and
>> there was no interlock present.  Two signals were present very often at the
>> same time.
>> In truth - it appears that the top multi-single stations in the IARU pretty
>> much routinely ignore the one signal requirement.  They seem to think
>> that "if you can get away with it - then it is okay".
>> I feel this attitude really stinks.  It is just like running high power and
>> claiming lower power in a contest.  It is CHEATING and it is not the way
>> the 99.9 percent of us want the game to be played.
>> I really hope the people who are responsible for these operations will
>> offer to submit their log as a check log and not pollute their scores with
>> those played by the wrong rules.  Their reputations will be forever
>> tarnished if they continue to associate themselves with operations that
>> break the rules.
>> Also - I invite the 99.9 percent of use who play by the rules to keep an
>> ear out for this type of blantant cheating - and let the contest sponsors
>> know when they observe it.  A stereo tape recording would be a simple way
>> to document the behavior.  Hopefully, we can stamp this out and get it out
>> of the results.
>> Thanks for letting me vent.
>> 73 Tree N6TR
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