[CQ-Contest] Cheating as a moral issue

David Gilbert xdavid at cis-broadband.com
Fri Sep 14 13:11:31 EDT 2012

That's not a contest, though.  If you don't want to contest for whatever 
reason, that's fine, but it hardly makes sense to make everyone else 
give up contesting.

And just to be clear ... you aren't agreeing with Bill at all.  He's 
saying that he's tired of listening to complaints about cheating because 
he thinks a few of us have blown the issue out of proportion.  You're 
saying that you think that you don't want to contest because there are 
enough cheaters that you don't want to be associated with them.  You're 
on opposite ends of the opinion spectrum.

Dave   AB7E

On 9/14/2012 7:48 AM, Dale Putnam wrote:
> I agree with Bill... with the additional thoughts that this is exactly what is killing contesting.Who wants to play with a BUNCH of cheaters? You are who you associate with.So.. guilty by association? Maybe.. or at least perceived that way. So.. how about just doing away with all publication of winner lists. NO MORE. Done. Compare scores on 3830 if you must, or want to but CQ would not publish a winners article. QST/NCJ would not publish a list of winners... let contesting go back to being what it is supposed to be. The fun of making qsos. I'd bet that the bands would actually be used once again for the purpose of exchanging information.Like... "How'd you do in the contest last week?" hmmmmm?.... what a concept.
> --...   ...--
> Dale - WC7S in Wy

>   > From: bparry at rgv.rr.com
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:20:49 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheating as a moral issue
>> Frankly I am really tired of this topic.  The idea that cheaters are hiding
>> behind every tree is not something that I want to talk about.  This seems to
>> be the favorite topic of a very small highly selected group that frequent
>> this reflector.
>> If the contest sponsors (CQ for example) want to stop cheating, they should
>> make the punishment so bad that no one would do it.  Like ban that person
>> from contesting for life on all the CQ contests. Give them the death penalty
>> or something.  A few years ago when we got into this mindset I decided to
>> stop sending in my logs. I enter them into 3830 and I can see how I did.
>> This will keep my logs from being involved in the witch-hunt that has become
>> contesting. (With the exception of the one contest per year that we do a
>> multi from my station).
>> Bill W5VX

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