[CQ-Contest] [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP

Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr at contesting.com
Mon Jun 17 17:35:38 EDT 2013


Why not simply make the WRTC rule the standard for CQWW (for that 
matter, for all contests)?

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 6/17/2013 4:48 PM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> I'm having a slight issue with one thing you've written Bob.  You 
> wrote that it is "not OK to go back and correct this after the fact."  
> This seems at odds with what I have heard stations say for years: 
> namely that if you make a change during the contest in in the minutes 
> immediately after the contest, its OK.  Indeed, in WRTC, you're 
> allowed 30 minutes to make corrections and to enter in any notes that 
> you made during the contest.
>
> Two examples come to mind:
> in CQWW, you work HG108DX on one band but you entered the call into 
> your log as HG109DX.  You work him three hours later on a different 
> band yet your worked call history shows you have never worked HG108DX, 
> but you KNOW you worked him.  A quick scan of partials indicates you 
> purportedly worked HG109DX, but you know now this to be wrong.  My 
> understanding is that you've always been able to make this correction 
> during  the contest.
>
> In ARRL DX (from the W/VE side), you work GW4BLE and you enter 59 100 
> as his power.  Three hours later, you work GW4BLE and you clearly hear 
> him say 59 400 which conflicts with what you think he said earlier.  A 
> verbal confirmation that 59 400 is correct and has been correct leads 
> you to change what you entered in the first QSO.  Again, my 
> understanding is that you've always been able to make this correction 
> during the contest.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On 6/17/2013 1:32 PM, w5ov at w5ov.com wrote:
>> I am curious how these scenarios are being read into rules that say
>> nothing about correcting typos or using SCP?
>>
>> "Check Partial" or "Super Check Partial" doesn't ever "log" anything. 
>> The
>> operator chooses a suggested callsign and then *HE* logs that, but it is
>> not CP or SCP doing the logging.
>>
>> The rule is strictly on using *outside* means of analyzing and 
>> correcting
>> your log. If *you* figure out that *you* made a typo, that's not what 
>> this
>> rule is talking about - is it?
>>
>> Even so, the rest of the pertinent section says:
>>
>>       VIII.9 All logging must be performed in real time.
>>
>>       VIII.10. Call signs logged must be the same as those exchanged
>>                over the air by the entrants during the QSO.
>>
>> Q: How does that affect the above?
>>
>> A: Let's say that you log and work K1ABZ during the contest. Later, you
>> somehow realize you should misheard his callsign and it should have been
>> K1ABC.  In this scenario, you said "K1ABZ" (Alpha Bravo Zulu) on the air
>> and logged K1ABZ. It is not OK to go back and correct this after the 
>> fact.
>> You made an error - clearly. Fixing it after the fact does not undo the
>> error - does it?
>>
>> One thing that is quite different is that with the advent of SDR, the
>> committee can hear virtually every qso that takes place.
>>
>>
>>
>> W5OV
>>
>>
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