[CQ-Contest] Additional Penalty

[Michael Clarson]

Ken: I've experienced this from the other end. Working a station on SSB, he
repeats my call back incorrectly several times, then he gives me a QSL
without repeating my call., and moves on. Sure enough -- I am not in his
log at all, I got a penalty because I logged the  QSO based on what the
other station sent. --Mike, WV2ZOW

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Ken K6MR <k6mr at outlook.com> wrote:

> It would seem that the additional penalty rule hurts the LP/QRP folks the
> most: they are more likely to have marginal signals. If I have trouble
> copying I’m more likely to declare NIL (or worse, not respond in the first
> place) if I know that busting the Q would result in additional penalties.
> If I’m just going to lose the Q then it’s worth taking the chance.
>
> Ken K6MR
>
> From: Alan Dewey via CQ-Contest<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 14:36
> To: CQ-Contest at contesting.com<mailto:CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Additional Penalty
>
> I don't have a problem with penalty QSOs.  I just consider it part of  my
> contest strategy.  How much time do I spend trying to get the call  right
> before just leaving it in the log and going on.  If I knew I was  going to
> get
> a penalty, I would spend a lot more time trying to get the call  right.  If
> there was no penalty, I would be more likely to just go on  (especially if
> I
> had a good run going)  knowing the worst that  could happen is that I would
> lose the QSO.
>
> I compete with a guy here in MN who has an extremely accurate log - often a
>  golden log.  I know that I have to either minimize my errors or find a way
>  to exceed his score by a comfortable "buffer".  This is a motivator for me
>  to do better.
>
> As someone has stated, most penalties are imposed only when the CALL is
> copied wrong.  If you miscopy, say, the check in SS, you are going to lose
> the Q but no penalty.
>
> There is only one thing that bothers me about the penalty QSOs.  If I
> decided to delete the QSO (after several unsuccessful efforts to get it
> right
> due to QRM and QSB), it keeps me from being penalized but it ends up
> penalizing  the guy who thought he had made the QSO with me.  I'm not sure
> what can
> be  done about that.
>
> 73,
>
> Al, K0AD
>
>
> In a message dated 4/13/2016 8:04:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> kzerohb at gmail.com writes:
>
> In a  contest you accumulate a score by contacting other stations,
> correctly
> copy  their callsign and generally some other bit(s) of information,  and
> accurately transcribe that exchange to your log.
>
> Having  correctly copied and logged the required elements, you are
> credited
> point(s) and perhaps a "mult".
>
> If you incorrectly copy the  exchange, or finger-fault the log entry, then
> you are not credited the  point(s) or mult.
>
> Without overly belaboring the obvious, your success  as a contester is
> directly proportional how fast and accurately you can  fill your log with
> "good" exchanges. Lower accuracy = lower  score.
>
> So what useful purpose is served by the retribution imposed in  the
> practice
> of reducing the score further with an "additional  penalty"?
>
> Do basketball players suffer an additional score reduction if  they miss a
> shot? Are points (already scored) deducted from a baseball team  if a
> batter
> fails to get on base? Does a bowler forfeit points earned in  the first
> frame if they throw a gutter ball in the eighth  frame?
>
> Just  wondering.
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