[CQ-Contest] W5WMU experiment in NAQP

[Chris Hurlbut]

Jeff,
That was not a personal attack, nor was any offense intended.

This subject has been beaten to death a thousand times on every ham radio
reflector I can think of.

Your argument is based on one assumption: that the rules were written to
create a level playing field.

The only contest I can think of that tries to write rules SPECIFICALLY for
a level playing field, is WRTC.

Changing things around so everyone can compete with the 5 other guys who
match their specific criteria is just never going to happen.
Competing with other ops that you know have similar setups is about all we
can ask for.

I do like the Tribander and Wires category in WPX.

I hope you get on and have some fun tomorrow!
-Chris KL9A


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Jeez Chris. Real class on your part to attack me personally. I'm pretty
> sure others have talked about this subject on the reflector before.
>
> Either way you don't need to create any special categories for me because
> with the setup I have at home I'm pretty sure I'll never win any contest.
> If I ever do it will make my day. I'm usually more concerned with just
> competing again N4PN and K4BAI in GA.
>
> Have a nice day...
>
> Jeff
> On Jan 8, 2016 3:32 PM, Chris Hurlbut <chriskl9a at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't understand.
>
> Why does one have to assume the rules were written to create a level
> playing field?
>
> This is poor justification for creation of a "KU8E Category" in any
> contest.
>
> -Chris KL9A
> On Jan 8, 2016 12:46 PM, "Jeff Clarke" <ku8e at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> There aren't any contest rules for any contest that specially say that.
>
> One has to assume when the rules were written that was the intent. Is it
> really fair for every to be grouped into one category based on running 100
> watts?
>
> They make an exception for QRP. Why don't they just group them in with
> everyone else too?
>
> If they have a QRP category then why can't they have a HP category as well?
>
> Jeff
> On Jan 8, 2016 2:32 PM, Chris Hurlbut <chriskl9a at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Where does it say the NAQP rules were made to create a level playing field?
>
> -Chris KL9A
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Stan,
>
> That's exactly what the NAQP rules do. Everyone has to run 100 watts and
> that's somehow fair and a level playing field for everyone? As we all know
> your antennas make your station not running high power. I could probably
> run a KW and guys like N9RV will still kick my butt.
>
> I wish more contest sponsors would add a Tribander/wires category like CQ
> has. Guys like myself who are limited as far as what we can put up for
> antennas should be able to win something every once awhile instead of just
> playing around and 'having fun". I'm just as competitive as any who has a
> nice station at their disposal.
>
> JeffOn Jan 8, 2016 9:01 AM, Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There sure is a lot of talk about "level playing fields".
> >
> > Are there really those who think we should bring everyone down to the
> lowest level of station and antennas so we can say we have a level playing
> field?  If so you had better set all of them up in a flat field within a
> few miles of each other.
> >
> > Here are a couple examples of level playing fields -  2m repeaters and
> computer simulated contesting.
> >
> > I would be sad, but I would very quickly find a new hobby if my
> activities were limited by the lowest common denominator - limited to
> dipoles, low power, operating 2m through a repeater, etc.
> >
> > About 75% of my enjoyment is thinking about ways to improve my station
> and trying to implement changes that could make it better.
> >
> > The challenge is more difficult but the reward greater when you try to
> get another 1 dB of gain when after 40 years of working at it you thought
> you had done all you could do.
> >
> > There is a lot of fun left out there for a lot of people who might only
> have a thousand foot roll of 18 gauge stranded wire ($25 on EBAY), a roll
> of black fishing twine ($8 from Wal-Mart) and a couple of trees.  End
> result, after all the fun, is you are way ahead of those who have dipoles,
> multi-band verticals, etc and perhaps ahead of the guy down the street with
> his tribander on a 50 foot tower.
> >
> > 73... Stan, K5GO
> >
> >
> > Sent from Stan's IPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 7, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why not allow high power in the NAQP? The guys that win all the time
> typically run HP in other contests anyway. Plus most of them have large
> antenna farms as well. You call that a level playing field? I don't think
> so.
> > >
> > >  Jeff KU8E
> > >
> > >
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