[CQ-Contest] Absurd Rule in NAQP

Stephen Bloom sbloom at acsalaska.net
Sun Jan 17 12:57:20 EST 2016


Ditto ..even though it's a tough contest from KL7.

Steve KL7SB

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To: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr at contesting.com>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Absurd Rule in NAQP

I expect one of the goals (among other things) of the NAQP is to serve as a
training ground for new ops: to learn to run for example.  But - they also
need to learn how to find stations to work *without using the cluster*!
That seems to be a very important skill that every operator should know how
to do - spin the dial to find stations to work.  This also forces running
stations to ID on a regular basis - they cannot expect the cluster to do
that for them.

I enjoy operating without having to deal with the cluster fed pileups.  One
can run with minimal pileups.  One can S&P without having to duke it out
with 50 other stations who just clicked on a spot the moment a station was

This is the flavour of the contest - lets leave it the way it is!

Tom - VE3CX

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On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:

> Every contest has its own quirks likely purposefully built in to 
> create its own feel. WAE has QTCs, SS has a long exchange and work 'em 
> once only, WW has everybody works everybody but some equals are more 
> equal than others, Sprint has the QSY rule. CX rewards ops who use vintage
> NAQP, it seems, wants to celebrate the unassisted single op. Bravo!
> If all the contests had the same rules, all the contests would be the
> Sometimes, the key to happiness is not trying to alter every 
> environment to suit particular tastes, but rather being able to find 
> joy in environments as they are.
> I find complaints about popular contests' rules are, at times, like 
> someone walking into a Szechuan restaurant and saying "What, you don't 
> make cheeseburgers?"
> I, for one, enjoy a contest without as many crazed, RBN- and 
> spot-driven pileups. But I'm not going to complain about contests that 
> have them, either.
> 73, Kelly
> ve4xt
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > NAQP does not allow use of spotting assistance on any mode, and
> single-ops using assistance are reclassified as Multi-two.  Then, 
> *because they areMulti-Two, they are required to adhere by the 
> 10-minute band change rule*.  When I asked one of the organizers, he 
> first said that they had never thought about it, but after a couple of 
> back-and-forths, he affirmed that is indeed how it works.
> >
> > Why should we care?  First of all, because penalizing assisted 
> > single-op
> participants in this way is a classic example of unintended consequences.
> The band change rule was intended to prevent elaborate octopus 
> arrangments competing with genuine two transmitter multis, not to 
> limit single-op band changes.  It prevents assisted entrants from 
> participating in one of the most fun aspects of NAQP, moving stations 
> (or being moved)  to maximize the distribution of rare mults.  For 
> people who operate assisted in other contests, it prevents them from 
> practicing high-rate assisted search-and-pounce skills unless they are 
> willing to accept a heavy handicapso far as NAQP competition is concerned.
> >
> > It's hard for me to understand why NAQP would cling to this 
> > antiquated
> situation.  The other three contests reclassifying assisted single-op 
> as multi-op were ARRL 10, ARRL 160, andIARU HF.  All three have now 
> adopted Single Op Unlimited as a legitimate competitive class. When 
> will NAQP get rid of this counter-productive anachronism?
> >
> > --
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
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> >
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