[CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

Tue Aug 31 21:57:31 EDT 2021

Joe,
I believe you are correct on that point as well.
It was quite a few years before operating awards were issued by the ARRL and other major organizations on the WARC bands, and for the same reasons as the original self-imposed prohibition on contesting.
73

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>; EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>; cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>; kzerohb at gmail.com <kzerohb at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

 Actually,
 In the back of my mind, did not like the ARRL, CQ any award offering organization even in the beginning say there will be no like WAS or DXCC awards offered on those bands also, so it wasn't a DX  contest from day one everyone trying to get the first WAS or DXCC etc?

 Joe WB9SBD 

  On 8/31/2021 8:04 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN via CQ-Contest wrote:

 If memory serves, and if I'm wrong I'm sure Hans will correct me...
When we first got access to the WARC bands, there was a lot of controversy amongst contesters, especially from those who didn't want to invest in equipment for three more band positions -- rigs, antennas, etc.  Especially for three very narrow bands that would fill up with signals quickly, if contesting were permitted on those bands.  Especially considering that we didn't get all three bands at once, and that they were phased in at different times and with different limits from different countries and administrations.
So the general consensus from the bulk of the contesting clubs and groups were to simply exclude the bands, at the time, from contesting.
The "pact" of leaving the bands available for non-contester use wasn't so much as a "pact" as something that evolved over time.  And it became, over time, very effective... especially during major contests, as a reasonable alternative for non-crowded bands was now available.  (Of course, some would, and continue to, argue that their rights to operate on the "traditional" bands where & when they want still trumps all contest activity, so why should THEY move off their claimed territory?  But I digress)
So, IMHO, it became, and remains, Good Amateur Practice to prohibit, as a "gentlemen's agreement" (and yes, I know we're not all gentlemen, and not all men, but we've murdered enough grammar etc. here as it is) organized contesting from the WARC bands.
And that's where you agreed to it.  As did we all.  As Good Amateur Practice.  One of many.
Simple enough.
73

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>
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Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2021 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

I was not asked nor ever agreed to said pact

When exactly did each of us do that actually?

If I am being held to my word l would like to know when I at least gave it

Ed. N1UR

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From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 6:41:16 PM
To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at advanced-conversion.com>; cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

We made a pact with our non-contesting brothers that we’d stay off WARC.  We ought not break our word.

73, de Hans, KØHB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

Too bad they changed it.  It would have brought some badly needed CW and SSB activity to the WARC bands.  It was hardly a contest in the normal contest sense.  Bouvet will bring A LOT more noise onto the bands when it appears that this suggested activity event would have.

Ed  N1UR
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