[Fourlanders] Missing text

Bill Pence pence.bill at gmail.com
Wed Dec 11 12:28:03 EST 2013


It is not limited to Gmail,  but I agree that the issue is at the
individual level.  It is just curious that this and to have just started
for us.
On Dec 11, 2013 12:25 PM, "Brian McCarthy" <brian at rfacres.com> wrote:

> I also use Gmail via Firefox almost exclusively. Yes, Gmail has been
> reported by a number of people to have trouble with "blank emails". It
> seems to be related to a MIME header format issue.
>
> If the group consensus is to move away from the contesting.com (free)
> service, someone else can manage it. I want nothing to do with another
> Yahoo list. I do not like them. I do not like Yahoo.
>
> Just curious - Has anyone looked at the list archives to compare what they
> get with what the list stored? (The link is at the bottom of each list
> email.) The Christmas Celebration email from Jim came through to my email
> as blank, but it shows content in the archives. Therefore it is my problem
> and resides with Gmail and Firefox. I prefer them and continue to use them.
> I look look at the archive or use the Gmail "Show original" function to
> catch what I missed.
>
> Brian
> NX9O
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Paul Yeager <paul at mtnlist.com> wrote:
>
>> I am usuing Yahoo's webmail interface exclusively.
>>
>> Some messages I receive via the reflector are blank, and some are not.
>>
>> This is addressed to the reflector and Ron, Bill, Scott, and Dusty.  It
>> will be interesting to see if anyone gets this message both directly and
>> via the relfector, and if there are differences betwene the two.
>>
>> 73 de W4SKI
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Ron Rogers <ww8rr at charter.net>
>> *To:* 'Bill Pence' <pence.bill at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* 'Scott Spencer' <scott at nn4w.com>; 'Paul Yeager' <paul at mtnlist.com>;
>> 'Dusty Findley' <dusty.nr4n at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:22 AM
>> *Subject:* RE: [Fourlanders] Missing text
>>
>>   I found out directly from Johnny (K4SQC) that he is using G-Mail (and
>> Firefox) and seems like he’s having the most and consistent issues. It
>> seems like nothing he sends is getting through this reflector now….HTML or
>> Plain Text.
>>
>> But I never have any issues with his e-mails delivered through the
>> Moon-Net or QCWA reflectors……I get them all…..even when they are HTML.
>>
>>  *Ron*
>> *WW8RR*
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Bill Pence [mailto:pence.bill at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:08 AM
>> *To:* Ron Rogers
>> *Cc:* Scott Spencer; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
>> *Subject:* Re: [Fourlanders] Missing text
>>
>>  It is not logical to me as I do not see a full pattern, but yes, what I
>> am saying is that I get blank emails from some people, when passed via the
>> reflector.
>>  I do not have this problem on 'normal' emails, only reflector, and even
>> then only on some emails via the reflector, and this seems to be a new
>> experience.
>>
>>  I use gmail only these days..
>>
>>  On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ron Rogers <ww8rr at charter.net> wrote:
>> Well, as you saw from Brian, he thinks it may be the HTML e-mails being
>> generated......however...I don't want to blow his mind quite yet and tell
>> him that ALL of my e-mails generated are in HTML and they seem to come
>> through fine !
>>
>> I think it COULD have something to do with HTML messages and how the
>> reflector deals with it, but ..I also think it has something to do with
>> E-Mail service providers (in my case, Charter) and how THEY might
>> re-format
>> certain things in the HTML e-mail, or add some ID character string, before
>> relaying to the reflector.
>>
>> Or ....how the service provider treats HTML messages from this reflector
>> before delivering to you, the customer.
>>
>> But again, I generate ALL of my e-mails in HTML and they seem to get
>> through
>> the reflector and I use Charter. So, that's why I'm beginning to think it
>> may have something to do with various intermediate Email services
>> providers
>> and how they interface to this particular reflector.
>>
>> On another note, I use MS Outlook here. To take Outlook out of the
>> equation
>> I logged in directly to the Charter site to manage my e-mail. What I found
>> was the following >
>>
>> All the e-mails out there posted from the reflector are identical to the
>> ones in my Outlook Inbox...those with content via Outlook have it on the
>> Charter.net <http://charter.net/> site, too.
>>
>> Those few that are empty also have missing content in the Charter.net
>> mailbox.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron
>> WW8RR
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ron Rogers [mailto:ww8rr at charter.net]
>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:41 PM
>> To: 'Scott Spencer'
>> Cc: 'Bill Pence'; 'Paul Yeager'; 'Dusty Findley'
>> Subject: RE: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>>
>> So what you are saying is that you, Tom, and Dusty get these empty e-mails
>> being passed from the Fourlanders reflector ?
>>
>> Or you are seeing the issue with regular person to persons e-mails, too ?
>>
>> Ron
>> WW8RR
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Spencer [mailto:scott at nn4w.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:02 PM
>> To: Ron Rogers
>> Cc: Bill Pence; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
>> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>>
>> This seems to be a recent and common problem.  Dusty, Tom Dooley and
>> myself
>> are all having it too.  It's weird that it just started a couple of weeks
>> ago.
>>
>> I haven't found a common thread yet.  We're using different e-mail
>> applications, different e-mail service providers, etc.
>>
>> Another weird thing about it is that the text comes through on my phone,
>> but
>> not on my computer.
>>
>> Scott
>> NN4W
>>
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Ron Rogers wrote:
>>
>> > No...I am seeing all e-mail contents from everyone here......
>> >
>> > Ron
>> > WW8RR
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Fourlanders [mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > Bill Pence
>> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:55 PM
>> > To: Paul Yeager
>> > Cc: Fourlanders
>> > Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>> >
>> > is anyone else getting empty emails from paul, dean, kos, etc via
>> > contesting.com?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Paul Yeager <paul at mtnlist.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
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