[Fourlanders] Missing text

Wed Dec 11 12:40:13 EST 2013

I agree, it is not only Gmail, but I believe there is more than one problem.

Johnny and I proved in September that rich text generated the way he does
it causes his email to come through the list as blank. I suspect rich text
that is what he prefers to use as default and sometimes forgets to set if
back to plain text when sending to the list. Hopefully, the small change in
the HTML email setting will allow those through.

Brian

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bill Pence <pence.bill at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is not limited to Gmail,  but I agree that the issue is at the
> individual level.  It is just curious that this and to have just started
> for us.
> On Dec 11, 2013 12:25 PM, "Brian McCarthy" <brian at rfacres.com> wrote:
>
>> I also use Gmail via Firefox almost exclusively. Yes, Gmail has been
>> reported by a number of people to have trouble with "blank emails". It
>> seems to be related to a MIME header format issue.
>>
>> If the group consensus is to move away from the contesting.com (free)
>> service, someone else can manage it. I want nothing to do with another
>> Yahoo list. I do not like them. I do not like Yahoo.
>>
>> Just curious - Has anyone looked at the list archives to compare what
>> they get with what the list stored? (The link is at the bottom of each list
>> email.) The Christmas Celebration email from Jim came through to my email
>> as blank, but it shows content in the archives. Therefore it is my problem
>> and resides with Gmail and Firefox. I prefer them and continue to use them.
>> I look look at the archive or use the Gmail "Show original" function to
>> catch what I missed.
>>
>> Brian
>> NX9O
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Paul Yeager <paul at mtnlist.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am usuing Yahoo's webmail interface exclusively.
>>>
>>> Some messages I receive via the reflector are blank, and some are not.
>>>
>>> This is addressed to the reflector and Ron, Bill, Scott, and Dusty.  It
>>> will be interesting to see if anyone gets this message both directly and
>>> via the relfector, and if there are differences betwene the two.
>>>
>>> 73 de W4SKI
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Ron Rogers <ww8rr at charter.net>
>>> *To:* 'Bill Pence' <pence.bill at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* 'Scott Spencer' <scott at nn4w.com>; 'Paul Yeager' <paul at mtnlist.com>;
>>> 'Dusty Findley' <dusty.nr4n at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:22 AM
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Fourlanders] Missing text
>>>
>>>   I found out directly from Johnny (K4SQC) that he is using G-Mail (and
>>> Firefox) and seems like he’s having the most and consistent issues. It
>>> seems like nothing he sends is getting through this reflector now….HTML or
>>> Plain Text.
>>>
>>> But I never have any issues with his e-mails delivered through the
>>> Moon-Net or QCWA reflectors……I get them all…..even when they are HTML.
>>>
>>>  *Ron*
>>> *WW8RR*
>>>   ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Bill Pence [mailto:pence.bill at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:08 AM
>>> *To:* Ron Rogers
>>> *Cc:* Scott Spencer; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Fourlanders] Missing text
>>>
>>>  It is not logical to me as I do not see a full pattern, but yes, what
>>> I am saying is that I get blank emails from some people, when passed via
>>> the reflector.
>>>  I do not have this problem on 'normal' emails, only reflector, and
>>> even then only on some emails via the reflector, and this seems to be a new
>>> experience.
>>>
>>>  I use gmail only these days..
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ron Rogers <ww8rr at charter.net> wrote:
>>> Well, as you saw from Brian, he thinks it may be the HTML e-mails being
>>> generated......however...I don't want to blow his mind quite yet and tell
>>> him that ALL of my e-mails generated are in HTML and they seem to come
>>> through fine !
>>>
>>> I think it COULD have something to do with HTML messages and how the
>>> reflector deals with it, but ..I also think it has something to do with
>>> E-Mail service providers (in my case, Charter) and how THEY might
>>> re-format
>>> certain things in the HTML e-mail, or add some ID character string,
>>> before
>>> relaying to the reflector.
>>>
>>> Or ....how the service provider treats HTML messages from this reflector
>>> before delivering to you, the customer.
>>>
>>> But again, I generate ALL of my e-mails in HTML and they seem to get
>>> through
>>> the reflector and I use Charter. So, that's why I'm beginning to think it
>>> may have something to do with various intermediate Email services
>>> providers
>>> and how they interface to this particular reflector.
>>>
>>> On another note, I use MS Outlook here. To take Outlook out of the
>>> equation
>>> I logged in directly to the Charter site to manage my e-mail. What I
>>> found
>>> was the following >
>>>
>>> All the e-mails out there posted from the reflector are identical to the
>>> ones in my Outlook Inbox...those with content via Outlook have it on the
>>> Charter.net <http://charter.net/> site, too.
>>>
>>> Those few that are empty also have missing content in the Charter.net
>>> mailbox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> WW8RR
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ron Rogers [mailto:ww8rr at charter.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:41 PM
>>> To: 'Scott Spencer'
>>> Cc: 'Bill Pence'; 'Paul Yeager'; 'Dusty Findley'
>>> Subject: RE: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>>>
>>> So what you are saying is that you, Tom, and Dusty get these empty
>>> e-mails
>>> being passed from the Fourlanders reflector ?
>>>
>>> Or you are seeing the issue with regular person to persons e-mails, too ?
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> WW8RR
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Spencer [mailto:scott at nn4w.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:02 PM
>>> To: Ron Rogers
>>> Cc: Bill Pence; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
>>> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>>>
>>> This seems to be a recent and common problem.  Dusty, Tom Dooley and
>>> myself
>>> are all having it too.  It's weird that it just started a couple of weeks
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> I haven't found a common thread yet.  We're using different e-mail
>>> applications, different e-mail service providers, etc.
>>>
>>> Another weird thing about it is that the text comes through on my phone,
>>> but
>>> not on my computer.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> NN4W
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Ron Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> > No...I am seeing all e-mail contents from everyone here......
>>> >
>>> > Ron
>>> > WW8RR
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Fourlanders [mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> > Bill Pence
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:55 PM
>>> > To: Paul Yeager
>>> > Cc: Fourlanders
>>> > Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>>> >
>>> > is anyone else getting empty emails from paul, dean, kos, etc via
>>> > contesting.com?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Paul Yeager <paul at mtnlist.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Fourlanders mailing list
>>> >> Fourlanders at contesting.com
>>> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/fourlanders
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Fourlanders mailing list
>>> > Fourlanders at contesting.com
>>> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/fourlanders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Fourlanders mailing list
> Fourlanders at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/fourlanders
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/fourlanders/attachments/20131211/f2a8623c/attachment.html>