[Fourlanders] Missing text
John Ackermann N8UR
jra at febo.com
Wed Dec 11 16:08:28 EST 2013
I have Mailman running on a dedicated server at a hosting center
(Peer1). I host a couple of dozen mailing lists for various groups,
including the time-nuts list which has about 1200 subscribers and quite
a bit of daily traffic. I have plenty of disk space and bandwidth, and
I'd be happy to host the list, though would prefer someone else to do
the day-to-day administration (e.g., membership management stuff).
73,
John
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On 12/11/2013 12:40 PM, Brian McCarthy wrote:
> I agree, it is not only Gmail, but I believe there is more than one problem.
>
> Johnny and I proved in September that rich text generated the way he
> does it causes his email to come through the list as blank. I suspect
> rich text that is what he prefers to use as default and sometimes
> forgets to set if back to plain text when sending to the list.
> Hopefully, the small change in the HTML email setting will allow those
> through.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bill Pence <pence.bill at gmail.com
> <mailto:pence.bill at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> It is not limited to Gmail, but I agree that the issue is at the
> individual level. It is just curious that this and to have just
> started for us.
>
> On Dec 11, 2013 12:25 PM, "Brian McCarthy" <brian at rfacres.com
> <mailto:brian at rfacres.com>> wrote:
>
> I also use Gmail via Firefox almost exclusively. Yes, Gmail has
> been reported by a number of people to have trouble with "blank
> emails". It seems to be related to a MIME header format issue.
>
> If the group consensus is to move away from the contesting.com
> <http://contesting.com> (free) service, someone else can manage
> it. I want nothing to do with another Yahoo list. I do not like
> them. I do not like Yahoo.
>
> Just curious - Has anyone looked at the list archives to compare
> what they get with what the list stored? (The link is at the
> bottom of each list email.) The Christmas Celebration email from
> Jim came through to my email as blank, but it shows content in
> the archives. Therefore it is my problem and resides with Gmail
> and Firefox. I prefer them and continue to use them. I look look
> at the archive or use the Gmail "Show original" function to
> catch what I missed.
>
> Brian
> NX9O
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Paul Yeager <paul at mtnlist.com
> <mailto:paul at mtnlist.com>> wrote:
>
> I am usuing Yahoo's webmail interface exclusively.
>
> Some messages I receive via the reflector are blank, and
> some are not.
>
> This is addressed to the reflector and Ron, Bill, Scott, and
> Dusty. It will be interesting to see if anyone gets this
> message both directly and via the relfector, and if there
> are differences betwene the two.
> 73 de W4SKI
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ron Rogers <ww8rr at charter.net
> <mailto:ww8rr at charter.net>>
> *To:* 'Bill Pence' <pence.bill at gmail.com
> <mailto:pence.bill at gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* 'Scott Spencer' <scott at nn4w.com
> <mailto:scott at nn4w.com>>; 'Paul Yeager' <paul at mtnlist.com
> <mailto:paul at mtnlist.com>>; 'Dusty Findley'
> <dusty.nr4n at gmail.com <mailto:dusty.nr4n at gmail.com>>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:22 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [Fourlanders] Missing text
>
> I found out directly from Johnny (K4SQC) that he is using
> G-Mail (and Firefox) and seems like he’s having the most and
> consistent issues. It seems like nothing he sends is getting
> through this reflector now….HTML or Plain Text.
> But I never have any issues with his e-mails delivered
> through the Moon-Net or QCWA reflectors……I get them
> all…..even when they are HTML.
> /*/Ron/*/
> /*/WW8RR/*/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:*Bill Pence [mailto:pence.bill at gmail.com
> <mailto:pence.bill at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:08 AM
> *To:* Ron Rogers
> *Cc:* Scott Spencer; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
> *Subject:* Re: [Fourlanders] Missing text
> It is not logical to me as I do not see a full pattern, but
> yes, what I am saying is that I get blank emails from some
> people, when passed via the reflector.
> I do not have this problem on 'normal' emails, only
> reflector, and even then only on some emails via the
> reflector, and this seems to be a new experience.
> I use gmail only these days..
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ron Rogers
> <ww8rr at charter.net <mailto:ww8rr at charter.net>> wrote:
> Well, as you saw from Brian, he thinks it may be the HTML
> e-mails being
> generated......however...I don't want to blow his mind quite
> yet and tell
> him that ALL of my e-mails generated are in HTML and they
> seem to come
> through fine !
>
> I think it COULD have something to do with HTML messages and
> how the
> reflector deals with it, but ..I also think it has something
> to do with
> E-Mail service providers (in my case, Charter) and how THEY
> might re-format
> certain things in the HTML e-mail, or add some ID character
> string, before
> relaying to the reflector.
>
> Or ....how the service provider treats HTML messages from
> this reflector
> before delivering to you, the customer.
>
> But again, I generate ALL of my e-mails in HTML and they
> seem to get through
> the reflector and I use Charter. So, that's why I'm
> beginning to think it
> may have something to do with various intermediate Email
> services providers
> and how they interface to this particular reflector.
>
> On another note, I use MS Outlook here. To take Outlook out
> of the equation
> I logged in directly to the Charter site to manage my
> e-mail. What I found
> was the following >
>
> All the e-mails out there posted from the reflector are
> identical to the
> ones in my Outlook Inbox...those with content via Outlook
> have it on the
> Charter.net <http://charter.net/> site, too.
>
> Those few that are empty also have missing content in the
> Charter.net
> mailbox.
>
>
>
> Ron
> WW8RR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Rogers [mailto:ww8rr at charter.net
> <mailto:ww8rr at charter.net>]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:41 PM
> To: 'Scott Spencer'
> Cc: 'Bill Pence'; 'Paul Yeager'; 'Dusty Findley'
> Subject: RE: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>
> So what you are saying is that you, Tom, and Dusty get these
> empty e-mails
> being passed from the Fourlanders reflector ?
>
> Or you are seeing the issue with regular person to persons
> e-mails, too ?
>
> Ron
> WW8RR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Spencer [mailto:scott at nn4w.com
> <mailto:scott at nn4w.com>]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:02 PM
> To: Ron Rogers
> Cc: Bill Pence; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>
> This seems to be a recent and common problem. Dusty, Tom
> Dooley and myself
> are all having it too. It's weird that it just started a
> couple of weeks
> ago.
>
> I haven't found a common thread yet. We're using different
> e-mail
> applications, different e-mail service providers, etc.
>
> Another weird thing about it is that the text comes through
> on my phone, but
> not on my computer.
>
> Scott
> NN4W
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Ron Rogers wrote:
>
> > No...I am seeing all e-mail contents from everyone here......
> >
> > Ron
> > WW8RR
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fourlanders [mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com
> <mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com>] On Behalf Of
> > Bill Pence
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:55 PM
> > To: Paul Yeager
> > Cc: Fourlanders
> > Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
> >
> > is anyone else getting empty emails from paul, dean, kos, etc via
> >contesting.com <http://contesting.com/>?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Paul Yeager <paul at mtnlist.com <mailto:paul at mtnlist.com>> wrote:
> >
> >>
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