[RFI] Dishwasher

[Jim Brown]

Great work, Dave!

As to the Maytag -- even if RFI for a product is not covered by an FCC 
Rule, it's still defective if it generates RF noise. When we complain 
about a product and demand that it be fixed or refunded, we are 
challenging their business model. We are making the mfr aware of a 
problem that prevents us from buying their product.

73, Jim K9YC

On 1/27/2018 4:02 PM, David Eckhardt wrote:
> No, I did not contact Maytag.  HOWEVER, when it came to the Panasonic 
> PLASMA television, I did a complete set of measurements using good HP 
> equipment, wrote a formal report, and sent it to Panasonic.  As a 
> result, they recognized the problem, took the set with no further 
> questions asked, and refunded my purchase price, including state tax.  
> TV's and radios ARE regulated by the FCC under Part 15, Subpart B.  
> One less plasma TV to cause interference.
>
> The reason I did not complain to Maytag was that FCC specifically 
> EXCLUDES home appliances from any requirements or testing. Appliances 
> have free run to include as many as they please totally unregulated 
> "with love, from China" switchers.
>
> Again, when we had task lighting installed in the 'TV' room, they 
> turned out to be 12-vac lamps.  No surpirse.  Of course, they were 
> powered by an "electronic transformer' which we all know is NOT a 
> transformer but a switching AC/AC converter.  It took me 10-hours 
> online (with breaks and a night of sleep) to finally trace down the 
> supplier of the 'electronic transformers'.  I know that the lighting 
> industry is held to FCC regulations and testing requirements.  So, I 
> finally contacted them and their reply, you'll get a kick out of this: 
> "Oh,....you want the FCC 'transformer' ".  Well, yes!!!! Turns out 
> they had only some 7 in stock as there 'isn't much demand for them'.  
> AND.....the price........hold your breath..........$85 EACH and I 
> needed two.  The 'with love, from China' units - originals - were $12 
> each, if I wanted to replace them.  NO......!!!!  Here's my credit 
> card and send two of the "FCC transformers".  They were fully aware of 
> the problem, but cheap is in and they ship the "with love, from China" 
> units with the lighting fixtures.  This has become so common I just 
> keep our own home as clean as possible and give up for the rest of the 
> world even though I have a small business addressing regulatory 
> requirements for EMC/RFI.  I've caught a few, but the report was 
> shoved in some nondiscrete dusty drawer in the back room.  One of the 
> cases actually went to court, but thats all I better write.
>
> Dave - WØLEV
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> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:53 PM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com 
> <mailto:jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 1/27/2018 11:24 AM, David Eckhardt wrote:
>
>         We bought the 'industrial' Maytag brand washer and dryer. 
>         They both
>         produce a lot of RFI on HF.  However, wash only once or twice
>         a week, but
>         it does interfer with my HF radio astronomy ventures quite
>         badly, but easy
>         to detect as its on or off - step function in the RFI.
>
>         Where is the FCC????
>
>
>     Essentially powerless, thanks to "small government" with no staff
>     to enforce their Rules, and with Rules that make it easy to sell
>     stuff that violates those Rules.
>
>     But, more to the point, where are YOU?  Did you complain to Maytag
>     about the problem and demand that they fix it or take it back?  As
>     we learned 50 years ago in the civil rights movement, "if you're
>     not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."
>
>     73, Jim K9YC
>
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