[RFI] FCC Complaint Filing

Charles Plunk af4o at twc.com
Tue Nov 26 16:07:51 EST 2019


Thanks for the explanation Eddie. Another advantage of trunking. My 
thoughts were thinking about a conventional digital system such as in 
use by smaller agencies. In my rural county, I am not aware of any 
trunking for city/county public service except the state agencies. I am 
near certain police, sheriff, EMS (still VHF analog), hospital to 
hospital are not trunking. Even the power co itself which is only about 
1/2 mile from me.

The power line rfi i have now started by pulsing in a roughly 
distinctive pattern which I could hear easily on the AM car radio. I 
drove around and could hear it for roughly a 1.5 mile radius which would 
be within range easily of the power co's 100' + tower I would think even 
though they are on VHF and their system is now conventional digital as 
far as I know. So its probably de sensing them.

I rarely get this lucky but the pole I think its emanating from, after 
much tracking, is already marked to be replaced due to a weak pole. I am 
in waiting mode now to see before I track further.

73

Chuck
AF4O

On 11/26/19 9:09 AM, EDWARDS, EDDIE J wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> It probably depends on the agency and if they have in-house technicians or if they outsource tech support whether they can respond to and track down an interfering source right away or not.  But the trunking systems will alarm if a channel is getting interference and will remove a channel from service if the interference is chronic or sustained.
>
> Our experience with our 800Mhz ORION-shared, trunked radio system in Nebraska is if the system controller doesn't remove a channel from service right away, then the public safety radio subsystems may notice coverage degradation earlier than our utility does since their sites are designed for indoor portable radio coverage while our utility only has mobile radio coverage on our subsystem.  Old cellular boosters are the usual culprit that gets into an 800Mhz radio system causing a channel to alarm and then be removed from service by the controller.
>
> Radio users will not notice anything most of the time since a chronically bad channel won't be assigned to the users of a trunked radio system.
>
> Back during the analog days, we've had local TV and radio studio links' with bad harmonics drift into the 800Mhz band, but those were easy to identify and find since the broadcast ID made it clear who it was.  Those would be harder to locate in today's digital world unless you use a multi-digital mode receiver like in certain test sets/monitors.
>
> 73, de ed -K0iL
> Eddie Edwards
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> You guys that are more familiar with public service digital systems
>
> (fire police EMS etc) than me maybe can enlighten me. Would these
>
> sources of RFI that we track for our ham analog systems not interfere
>
> with digital systems? But maybe go unnoticed since the users of the
>
> digital may not even notice since the RFI just de-senses the digital
>
> system to where the range is limited but what does go through is still
>
> clear? And that limited range could affect vital communications?
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>
>
> That to me makes us tracking down interference immensely important does
>
> it not? Its like we are doing a free public service. And the FCC should
>
> back us up, if by just stern letters, for this reason if not for
>
> ourselves (which they should).
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>
>
> Just a thought.
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>
> Chuck
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> AF4O
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