[RTTY] AA5AU SARTG Score

[DJ3IW Goetz]

Hello,

following this thread, the subject of signing call/x 
seems to be a real problem for (some?) stateside contesters.
Barry, W2UP requested "International contest sponsors need 
to realize that there are no US geographic call areas any 
more." 
Does the FCC issue new callsigns with area coding? Why do your
regulations require you to sign /portable using the "non-existing
call areas" for portable operation?

I am, together with DJ3NG, DL2YCA and DL4RCK an international
contest sponsor. What do you want us to do? My interpretation
of Barrys request and the other comments made, is to DROP area 
multipliers for the USA. Alaska and Hawaii would also have to
be counted as USA, as there are several AH6, KH6, NH6, WH6 and 
KL0, AL7, KL7, NL7, WL7 operating from W4-, W7-, W9-areas etc.
Just one country multiplier and (using the DL-DX RTTY and SARTG RTTY 
as an example) just 5 points for in-country contacts for all of you
in the 50 United States?
Is it this what you guys want? 
Otherwise the concept of country multipliers would have to be dropped
altogether and replaced by something else, like ITU- or CQ-zones.

73 de Goetz
dj3iw at t-online.de
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Brookner" <kenb at brookner.com>
To: <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: [RTTY] AA5AU SARTG Score


> i have a 5-land call and live in 7-land.  i don't sign portable under
> any circumstances anymore.  i used to, but caught flack from dx about
> doing so in contests.  because of the various master call databases i
> had to become consistent, otherwise i would hear "/7??," or "7 or not??"
> all the time from both phone and digital contests (and even dx during
> non-contest contacts) and this just slows everyone down.
> 
> my preference for continental US ops is to disallow all portable signing
> during contests.  for working by numbers, i'm a '5' and i don't play
> games trying to double dip in pile-ups by also trying the 'portable 7'
> ploy.  where contests absolutely require portable signing, i generally
> don't play anymore.
> 
> i think that would make it simpler for everyone to *not* use portable
> signage for US continental ops.  my .02.
> 
> kenb, ky5g
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com 
> > [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of llindblom at juno.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:11 AM
> > To: k5ww at wcsonline.net
> > Cc: rtty at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] AA5AU SARTG Score
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As always it seems many North Americans only understand 
> > imperatives like "must" or "shall."  
> > 
> > My all time favorites are the stations who sometimes sign 
> > portable and sometimes don't.  This is typically done in a 
> > pile up on rare DX working by call areas;-)
> > 
> > 73 Larry L
> > W0ETC
> > 
> > --- "Gert E. Janssens" <k5ww at wcsonline.net> wrote:
> > 
> > The rules for SARTG say:
> > 
> > "NOTE: Stations operating from call areas other than their 
> > call ID, are asked to use '/x' for their actual call area, 
> > i.e. K5DJ/1."
> > 
> > The word "asked" often gets "misinterpreted".
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Gert - K5WW
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Barry 
> >   To: rtty at contesting.com 
> >   Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:10 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [RTTY] AA5AU SARTG Score
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   On 18 Aug 2003 Shelby Summerville wrote:
> > 
> >   >  "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au at bellsouth.net> wrote: "What 
> > really pushed me to
> >   > compete hard in the last two periods was a US station 
> > with a 5 callsign not
> >   > signing / portable the area he was in."
> >   > 
> >   >  Until contest sponsors make rules requiring, not 
> > suggesting, signing
> >   > "portable", there will be no change! Contest entrants are 
> > notorious for
> >   > "pushing the envelope", and, IMHO, it behooves the 
> > sponsors to "stay one
> >   > step ahead", not "several behind"?
> >   > 
> >   > C'Ya, Shelby
> >   > 
> > 
> >   I thought it WAS required. I had some time available last weekend, 
> >   and was considering operating SARTG, but decided not to when I saw 
> >   that rule about signing portable. International contest 
> > sponsors need 
> >   to realize that there are no US geographic call areas any 
> > more.  All 
> >   the number means is where one was first licensed, if still holding 
> >   the original call.  If one has have a vanity call even that isn't 
> >   true. I haven't lived in "2 land" since 1979 and I'm not portable!
> >   Barry W2UP (in PA, not portable 3)--
> >   Barry Kutner, W2UP              Internet: w2up at mindspring.com
> >   Newtown, PA                     Frankford Radio Club
> >            
> 
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