[SCCC] Intentional QRM

[Art]

Tom
The reason for the puzzlement is that the callers were calling on my TX 
freq such that J5C got my call, but could not get the report. Some of 
these lids are very proficient at finding the current QSO. Which is what 
I got up in arms about, the intentional QRM from jerks who quickly find 
the freq the current caller is on, and start dumping in their calls. No 
amount of split will cure that. Seems worse on the low bands.

You're sure right about getting worse. Neither of us started DXing 
yesterday. K6XT is not a vanity call. I remember how it used to be when 
our fellow DXers, me included, actually got embarrassed for calling out 
of turn! Those days we need more of.

I don't fault J5C for pressing on. Yes they are doing things right. He 
tried 3x for a complete Q, enough is enough. Besides I worked him next 
day no problem. He was actually louder on 160 than 80.

Last night on 80 as I started posting the jerks the effect on the pileup 
was clear. Many stopped calling out of turn. Some, instead of 
proactively taking heed, started sending my call on J5C's freq - well 
those are the really uncontrollable freq cops.

73 Art

Tom Rauch wrote:
> I agree piles can be rude and seem to be getting worse. I worked a CU1 a 
> week ago but someone spotted him as a 5B or something. Then for the next 
> two hours people kept working CU1CB and saying things like "tnx nr 200 
> 5B1xx". The CU1 was giving his call, but so many people were calling 
> that couldn't hear him that most people thought it was the callsign that 
> was wrongly spotted. But that was simplex, and there will always be 
> people that can't really hear the DX making cluster QSO's and bragging 
> about them.
> 
> I'm puzzled by this thread, because the J5 is doing things right. He is 
> using a wide split....
> 
>>> Last night I had to work J5C 3 times to think I had one QSO. Not because
>>> I couldn't hear him. I just happened to choose a great freq where he
>>> could hear my call. So could the lids. All the lids and kids were
>>> calling on my freq  while I tried to complete the QSO. And I never did
>>> get a firm confirmation of contact, so had to work him again today.
> 
> When a DX station is operating with a reasonable split, say over 2 kHz 
> to keep out of the clicks, how can a station calling on the split 
> frequency cause anyone to be unsure of the contact? I don't understand 
> that. While I agree people need to NOT call when they can't hear and to 
> limit the calling to a reasonable and proper time, it seems to me unless 
> someone is calling on top of the DX what people up the band do would 
> never affect my knowing if I made a good QSO.
> 
> So what was the real cause of being unsure of the QSO???? Something 
> doesn't make sense. Perhaps the REAL problem is the J5 is not properly 
> confirming the QSO in his response??
> 
> 73 Tom
> 
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