[SCCC] N6WIN 2012 ARRL FD 1E LP

[Paul / N6LL]

I like Marty's phrase "Each claimed transmitter in an entry category must be 
manned by a separate, appropriately licensed operator" because it reinforces 
and illustrates an FCC regulation I have seen abused at Field Day. In one 
case when asked what frequency they were using, the legal control operator 
who was fifteen feet from the radio and reading a book replied "twenty 
meters, isn't it?"

73 Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Woll" <n6vi at socal.rr.com>
To: "Dino Darling" <dino at kx6d.com>; <sccc at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] N6WIN 2012 ARRL FD 1E LP


> Hi, Dino.
>
> It's probably moot anyway, because I have never been able to get rule 
> wording changes enacted before (although I will keep trying).  However, I 
> had that wording in the suggested language to prevent one licensed op 
> lining up ten unlicensed people in front of ten rigs and pretending to be 
> the control op for them all.  HQ actually had a case in which four 
> operators entered as 20A; the rules at the time did not explicitly 
> prohibit the practice.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Marty N6VI
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dino Darling
>  To: Marty Woll ; sccc at contesting.com
>  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:45 PM
>  Subject: RE: [SCCC] N6WIN 2012 ARRL FD 1E LP
>
>
>  Field Day allows for un-licensed operators operating under a control
>  operator (that's a lot of "O's"). I'd drop "appropriately licensed
>  operator."
>
>  For further discussion, there is a limit on the number of transmitters
>  (transceivers?) operating on one band-mode at a time...
>
>  "4. Entry Categories: Field Day entries are classified according to the
>  maximum number of simultaneously
>  transmitted signals...
>
>  6. Miscellaneous Rules:
>
>  6.3. Phone, CW and Digital (non-CW) modes on a band are considered as
>  separate bands. A station may
>  be worked only once per band under this rule.
>
>
>  6.7. The use of more than one transmitter at the same time on a single
>  band-mode is prohibited. Exception:
>  a dedicated GOTA station may operate as prescribed in Rule 4.1."
>
>  The key words here are "SIMULTANEOUSLY" and "AT THE SAME TIME". While
>  the rules clearly state TRANSMITTING radios in rule #4, using two radios
>  on a single band-mode AT THE SAME TIME (one TX and one RX) is open for
>  interpretation. The rules say NO. Of course, they do say "transmitter"
>  in 6.7. Is it only a transmitter when transmitting and a receiver when
>  receiving...or do they mean "transceiver"?
>
>  Again, my initial reaction was that a lock-out was not allowed. As I
>  read the rules, I was right; but now I'm not sure.
>
>  Dino - KX6D
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: Re: [SCCC] N6WIN 2012 ARRL FD 1E LP
>  From: "Marty Woll" <n6vi at socal.rr.com>
>  Date: Mon, July 09, 2012 12:10 pm
>  To: "Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com>, <sccc at contesting.com>
>
>
>  Thanks, Mike.
>
>  Here's the wording I'd like to see (assuming that is the actual intent
>  of the rules):
>
>   "Devices that allow one operator to key multiple transmitters
>  simultaneously are not permitted. Each claimed transmitter in an entry
>  category must be manned by a separate, appropriately licensed operator."
>
>  73,
>
>  Marty N6VI
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Michael Tope
>   To: sccc at contesting.com
>   Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:30 AM
>   Subject: Re: [SCCC] N6WIN 2012 ARRL FD 1E LP
>
>
>   I've heard through the grapevine, for example, that some serious 1A
>   entries use SO2R setups to increase rate, which is fine if allowed by
>   the rules. From what you say, Marty, it sounds like that is the case.
>   The current wording doesn't really make that very clear. In fact, it
>   seems to imply that an SO2R setup with lockout would be prohibited, so
>   it would be good to get a more concise wording.
>
>   Thanks for chasing this down.
>
>   73, Mike W4EF
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