[SCCC] FT4 on 7047

[w6cbureau at san.rr.com]

Steve/Howard.

Actually both the CW and SSB bands are virtually empty except for contests. All the HF bands are heavily favored to SSB for bandwidth. From my perspective, looking at the chart on Club Log, more of the digital signal users have come from the SSB and Other users and not so much from CW. I believe this is mainly due to depressed sunspot numbers forcing people who want to play radio to move to digital. There is nothing wrong with that. 

Since there is so much more wasted space on SSB than on CW it makes more sense to move digital to the SSB portion of the band. Steve's point of over driving modulation is just one issue. Creating multiple digital modes requiring more and more bandwidth is.

Whoever chose 7047.0 to channelize FT4 clearly has no understanding of 40 meters. No understanding the value of W1AW. No understanding of the CW band. Perhaps the intent is to float 7047.0 out there and see if there is any push back from the CW community. So far I have seen very little which is distressing to me.

I don't feel this issue is a lost cause for the CW community. I believe that once the sunspots return and people can actually make human to human contact again the ham radio that we know and love will return. 

However it will be a lost cause if we do not push back.

Terry/N6CW


---- "Dr. Howard S. White" <drpaper at kleega.com> wrote: 
> I for one totally disagree.  Except for contests the CW Bands are virtually empty of CW Signals.  It’s an incredible waste of bandwidth
> 
> By contrast, the digital modes are effectively channelized - usually less than 3KHz yet in spite of the small bandwidth utilization can be full of hundreds of Q’s.when the CW areas are still empty     In fact, according to LOTW, FT8 makes up a majority of all Q’s.   Looks like FT4 will be a dominant RTTY Contest mode. 
> 
> If anything CW bands are far too large for their utilization 
> 
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> On May 2, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Steve <k0xp at k0xp.com> wrote:
> 
> At 06:53 AM 5/2/2019, w6cbureau at san.rr.com wrote:
> > For the record I strongly oppose the use of 7047.0 or any frequency below 7060.0 being assigned to FT4 or any future FT mode.
> > 
> > Am I the only one???
> 
> No; I strongly agree. In fact, even though I'm aware it's a losing cause, I urge pushing both ft4 and ft8 up into the phone band where they belong, with all their modulated tones. If you overdrive a CW or RTTY signal, so what, it doesn't make it spread out and splatter (although bad keying may create key clicks). But overdrive a modulated-tone mode and it spreads all over the place, as some europeans are doing right now.
> 
> SteveH, K0XP 
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