[SCCC] Arizona consideration

Mon Apr 4 21:27:31 EDT 2022

A lot of people buy real estate first and then think ham later. Kurt has the order correct… I’d of never made an offer for a property that didn’t meet ham radio conditions first. That’s just me… not everyone is as serious about radio and allow family, work, etc to take priority. Once I retired I asked myself what’s been with me most of my life? Radio, shooting, and family. Those were the priorities in choosing land and all three had to be ok here.
Don’t get me wrong, my wife had to like the property too. However, this property met all the check boxes and we executed. As new neighbors come in they are very friendly. I do what I can to make peace with those who choose to have an opinion on another’s land but there is often no real changing of one’s personal opinions. That’s fine as I have mine too but have learned to check it at my property line so as not to be a hypocrite on the matter. Even helping by allowing a WISP on my towers brought forth negative reaction to an area underserved with broadband.
Arizona has a lot of people moving to it with different opinions. Hopefully they leave the differing thoughts where they came from… I know that was the primary question I was asked when I began construction. Nothing wrong with a difference of opinion, but that’s how it tends to be asked in my area. Even then those “like minded” people have opinions.
I doubt anything is perfect and if AZ isn’t for someone then no need to justify it. Plenty of other amazing states to call home. 
Like someone mentioned… if bicycling is your primary passion, you wouldn’t want to live where I do. The best place for one man isn’t the best for another. 
73,
Tim / N6WIN 

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On Monday, April 4, 2022, 18:05, W6PH via SCCC <sccc at contesting.com> wrote:

This is really a lesson on finding suitable property.  N6WIN has a super station north of Wickenburg. Before he bought the property, he went to the Yavapai County offices in Prescott to check on the ordinances and regulations.  They were all straight forward and no onerous requirements.  Plans and inspections were required but no ordinances against antenna structures or restrictions on height.  He did everything right.  There were neighbors who tried to stop him but he had done his homework and he put up three 130 foot towers.  He has since made peace with his neighbors by helping in the community.  The reason he picked this area was his wife's father lived in the vicinity.
 The lesson is due diligence.  If you find a piece of property check the ordinances and restrictions before you buy or make it a condition in a purchase agreement which I don't recommend.  In Tim's case he is just a mile or so from Maricopa County which would have been disastrous for putting up an antenna. 73, Kurt W6PH
In a message dated 4/4/2022 5:33:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, k0xp at k0xp.com writes: 
This is a contest reflector, so I'm going to refrain from answering that 
question in public; e-mail me for a private response.

SteveH K0XP

On 4/4/2022 3:24 PM, Dennis Vernacchia wrote:
> Sounds like a Phoenix area problem Mike....
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 3:08 PM Michael S. Mitchell W6RW 
> <w6rw at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>    What is the problem that everyone is having with Arizona? I have
>    been living here for about 8 years now without a problem. Is it
>    the area you moved to, the weather or antenna ordinances or what?
>
>    de Mike W6RW
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Mark Schoonover
>    Sent: Apr 4, 2022 2:58 PM
>    To: Steve Harrison
>    Cc: SCCC
>    Subject: Re: [SCCC] Fleeing W6-Land
>
>    Same results with me about AZ. Planning on returning in June.
>
>    73! Mark KA6WKE
>
>    Website: https://www.ka6wke.net
>
>    On Fri, Apr 1, 2022, 12:28 Steve Harrison wrote:
>
>    > At some time in the not-so-distant past, I wrote:
>    >
>    > > Like many other Angelenos, I have recently reluctantly pulled up
>    > > roots from California, and fled to far-cheaper Arizona. I still
>    > > have family in California (how they can afford to stay there
>    > > without robbing banks
>    > > is far beyond me) so I'll sneak back from time to time; thus, I
>    > > wish to be considered a "remote member" of SCCC, SCDXC and OCARC
>    > > although I've joined the "Outlaws", AOCC.
>    > >
>    > > TNX,
>    > > SteveH
>    > >
>    > Unfortunately, Arizona turned out not to be such a "promised
>    land", and
>    > as of yesterday, I have bought property near 29 Palms in the
>    desert on
>    > which to establish my permanent abode (around 10 miles or so
>    east of the
>    > old W6BA, ex-W6ANN, site, in fact, which still exists, complete
>    with at
>    > least five towers with portions of two yagis still up on one).
>    We'll see
>    > just how that goes. It will be awhile before I'm back in the W6
>    contest
>    > results; but as of now, I again wish to be considered a full-fledged
>    > member of SCCC (and, of course, SCDXC; but per the above earlier
>    > statement, probably not OCARC since I no longer have ties to Orange
>    > County) vice "remote member".
>    >
>    > Thanks,
>    >
>    > SteveH, K0XP
>    >
>    > ex-WB6PKA
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