[SEDXC] DISTANT REMOTES

Tom W8JI w8ji at w8ji.com
Tue Jul 28 20:06:12 EDT 2015


> This is a response from K4AC our Div Rep and I can see why the rules on 
> DXCC have become so lax now.. this is from K4AC as to why he will not 
> support a 200 Km distance to remotes for DXCC.  So if it too hard we just 
> keep the rules to make it as easy as possible.
>
>

To be fair, that 200 Km should apply to everyone.

I don't know why people waited 30 years. What are we planning on doing with 
all the DXCC contacts from multiple locations that go back 30-40 years ago, 
throw them out?

DXCC rules changed in the 1980's to not limit location to any operating 
circle or district, but to include anywhere in the lower 48.

At the same approximate time period, the FCC removed requirements that 
people operating other stations had to use that other station's call.

The effect of all of this, all of which took place around the 1980's, was 
the following:

1.) Anyone visiting another Ham could use that station to work DX. DXCC does 
not go with the station

2.) Anyone could visit a station and use the other guy's call. DXCC does not 
go with the licensed person

 3.) Anyone could move anywhere, visit anywhere, or remote anywhere and as 
long as it is inside the lower 48 it counts

4.) DXCC for many years has gone with the callsign, not the operator, 
location, or station.

I didn't like this when it took place, and I objected, because everyone 
traditionally lost DXCC credits when they moved beyond a certain distance. 
I thought DXCC should go with the station and location, and if the station 
moved too far....that's too bad.

Everyone let it happen, no one cared, and for around 30 years or more DXCC 
contacts made from one coast transferred to another coast. The station 
didn't matter. The operator didn't matter. People lived for 30 years with 
this, but somehow they think DXCC is supposed to be a ranking of the money 
or time they spend compared  to what other people spend.

Where were you all in the 80's, sleeping?

As a 12-13 year old kid, my first W6 on 160 meters was using a shared 
remote. That was around 1963. I don't feel the least bit bad about it, and I 
wouldn't care if he was next door to me working that remote. I only cared 
where the station was.

The general rule in fairness is: "What I can do that helps me is fair and 
reasonable. What others do that I am not doing is cheating."

73 Tom 



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