[SEDXC] DISTANT REMOTES

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Using a phone patch or powered repeater has never been permitted
for DXCC (other than satellite DXCC).  Remote stations sound
suspiciously like a phone patch or powered repeater.

> 3.) Anyone could move anywhere, visit anywhere, or remote anywhere
> and as long as it is inside the lower 48 it counts

So?  Now your permitting teleportation - moving from coast to cost
within seconds.  That's a whole different kettle of fish ...

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-28 8:06 PM, Tom W8JI wrote:
>> This is a response from K4AC our Div Rep and I can see why the rules
>> on DXCC have become so lax now.. this is from K4AC as to why he will
>> not support a 200 Km distance to remotes for DXCC.  So if it too hard
>> we just keep the rules to make it as easy as possible.
>>
>>
>
> To be fair, that 200 Km should apply to everyone.
>
> I don't know why people waited 30 years. What are we planning on doing
> with all the DXCC contacts from multiple locations that go back 30-40
> years ago, throw them out?
>
> DXCC rules changed in the 1980's to not limit location to any operating
> circle or district, but to include anywhere in the lower 48.
>
> At the same approximate time period, the FCC removed requirements that
> people operating other stations had to use that other station's call.
>
> The effect of all of this, all of which took place around the 1980's,
> was the following:
>
> 1.) Anyone visiting another Ham could use that station to work DX. DXCC
> does not go with the station
>
> 2.) Anyone could visit a station and use the other guy's call. DXCC does
> not go with the licensed person
>
> 3.) Anyone could move anywhere, visit anywhere, or remote anywhere and
> as long as it is inside the lower 48 it counts
>
> 4.) DXCC for many years has gone with the callsign, not the operator,
> location, or station.
>
> I didn't like this when it took place, and I objected, because everyone
> traditionally lost DXCC credits when they moved beyond a certain
> distance. I thought DXCC should go with the station and location, and if
> the station moved too far....that's too bad.
>
> Everyone let it happen, no one cared, and for around 30 years or more
> DXCC contacts made from one coast transferred to another coast. The
> station didn't matter. The operator didn't matter. People lived for 30
> years with this, but somehow they think DXCC is supposed to be a ranking
> of the money or time they spend compared  to what other people spend.
>
> Where were you all in the 80's, sleeping?
>
> As a 12-13 year old kid, my first W6 on 160 meters was using a shared
> remote. That was around 1963. I don't feel the least bit bad about it,
> and I wouldn't care if he was next door to me working that remote. I
> only cared where the station was.
>
> The general rule in fairness is: "What I can do that helps me is fair
> and reasonable. What others do that I am not doing is cheating."
>
> 73 Tom
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