[TenTec] Keyers?

[Steve Baron - KB3MM]

Maybe I am confused but do not understand why keyer brand model is so
important.

Never used the Orion keyer until about 5 minutes ago.  Unplugged my Bencher
paddles from the Logi keyer ,
plugged it into the front panel, set the Mode to B and away it went.

I cannot tell any difference bewteen the Logi keyer and the Orion keyer.

What am I missing >?

Is it posible you are talking about an electronic keyer going into the
Orion's keyer input and fighting with it ?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Brown" <ken.d.brown at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 19:38
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Keyers?


> Steve wrote:
>
> >Gary:
> >I am sure that any keyer would work with the Orion including your old
> >Heathkit keyer. The rig has nothing to do with your "struggle".
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> Gary wrote:
>
> >>For years I used an old Heathkit keyer but switched over to the keyer
> >>in the Orion last fall. Now the 850 keyer is a struggle to get right.
> >>
> Hi Steve and all,
>
> I think what Gary is observing is that every keyer seems to be a bit
> different, and once you get used to one, having used it for a long
> while, it is difficult to switch to another keyer. I think Gary realizes
> that just about any keyer can be hooked up to the Orion or the TS-850
> and be made to work. The problem is not whether the keyer "works" but
> rather whether the operator can "work the keyer" proficiently. Once you
> get used to one keyer it can be hard to switch to another.
>
> I have noticed difficulty switching between the Omni VI internal keyer
> and the Logikey K-3. I have them both set to mode B, but they do not
> work exactly identically. There seems to be some differences in the
> timing of the "window of opportunity" for adding trailing dits or
> inserting dits. The difference in operation is very difficult to
> analyze, because as soon as you start focusing on it, the problem seems
> to either go away or change. This is probably due to minor changes in
> timing of the operator's actuation of the paddles.
>
> Does anyone know if there is an "official" definition of exactly what
> mode A and mode B iambic keying are? Are there any specific parameters
> stated by any keyer manufacturer as to the timing of the paddle inputs
> versus the keyer outputs? I have never seen any such specifications, and
> I suspect that minor differences between brands is what gives some
> people trouble switching from one keyer to another. I find it
> interesting that it seems the transition from one model to another can
> seem smooth and not even noticable to the operator, and then after
> becoming accustomed to the second keyer, switching back to the first one
> can be very difficult. What is it that makes it easy to adjust in one
> direction and difficult in the other?
>
> To answer your question Gary: I like the Idiom Press Logikeyer K-3 best.
>
> 73 DE N6KB
>
>
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