[TenTec] Re. O2 update and NR
Jim M.
jmiller1706 at cfl.rr.com
Sat Jun 5 17:44:42 PDT 2010
Isn't the idea of noise reduction to reduce noise and not create noise?
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> 1. 9420 power supply (Harry Coates)
> 2. Re: 9420 power supply (Phil Chambley Sr.)
> 3. Re: 9420 power supply (Phil Chambley Sr.)
> 4. Re: 9420 power supply (Martin Ewing)
> 5. Re: new firmware (Steven Kline)
> 6. Re: 9420 power supply (Steven Kline)
> 7. bug in firmware 2.043B, at least I think so (Rick Borken)
> 8. New software (Gene Henderson)
> 9. Orion 2 Firmware 2.043B Released (Dennis Duffin)
> 10. Ten-Tec Paragon & Icom PW-1 Amp?.. (Jeffrey M. Swiger)
> 11. Re: New software (Troy W6HV)
> 12. Re: 9420 power supply (Phil Chambley Sr.)
> 13. Re: 9420 power supply (Jim Brown K9YC)
> 14. New software (Harry G McGavran Jr)
> 15. WTB: Century 22 or 21 (Jerry Kitterman)
> 16. Re: New software (Ron Castro)
> 17. Re: New software (Rsoifer at aol.com)
> 18. Sidetone in v. 2.043B? (Rick Borken)
> 19. Re: Sidetone in v. 2.043B? (Ron Castro)
> 20. Re: Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D (Kris Merschrod)
> 21. Re: Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:08:31 -0400
>From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1 at charter.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <0513BF8BC3994DF7BB72248BFF33EC74 at DUKE5>
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>Good afternoon to all,
>
>Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>
>Harry
>
> WA8HC1 at charter.net
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:52:07 -0400
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <06D65266E9D34571BBC620E6D52115A3 at sparky>
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>Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>
>Phil C. Sr.
>k4dpk
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1 at charter.net>
>To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>
>
>> Good afternoon to all,
>>
>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the
>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced
>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> WA8HC1 at charter.net
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:49:32 -0400
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <060D7A194B5A428AB3FE8A79B06A02B9 at sparky>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I owe
>the group an apology.
>
>It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>Harry out to the entire group.
>
>I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>happened before.
>
>Phil C. Sr.
>k4dpk
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk at comcast.net>
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>
>
>> Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>>
>> Phil C. Sr.
>> k4dpk
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1 at charter.net>
>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>> Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>
>>
>>> Good afternoon to all,
>>>
>>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the
>>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced
>>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> WA8HC1 at charter.net
>>> _______________________________________________
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:57:20 -0400
>From: Martin Ewing <martin.s.ewing at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
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>Phil,
>
>You must be new here? ;-)
>
>These mistakes happen all the time. I recommend that people not apologize
>unless something damaging or very personal was said. Expressions of
>sympathy are not like that -- maybe we need more of them! Of course, it's
>best if we do check who we're sending email to each time...
>
>Have a good weekend, everyone.
>
>73
>Martin
>AA6E
>
>On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. <k4dpk at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I owe
>> the group an apology.
>>
>> It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>> Harry out to the entire group.
>>
>> I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>> least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>> happened before.
>>
>> Phil C. Sr.
>> k4dpk
>>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:58:27 -0500
>From: Steven Kline <skline4 at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] new firmware
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4013A09A-FCEE-42C0-BFCF-27398B550A89 at verizon.net>
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>Yes John, I observed the same.
>
>Additionally, I noticed that all of the settings for my microphone ( Ten Tec Studio) required much different adjustment than the earlier load that I was running (2.041XL). With the new load I must run the settings much higher than before to accomplish close to the same. For example the hardware microphone gain, in the menu, I am now running at 4 and the mic gain control on the radio (front) I seem to need as high as 70-75 to get enough audio drive (verses around 50 in previous load), this is without the speech processor turned on. I have my ssb lower rolloff set at 240 hz and xmit bandwidth at 2700. I thought my audio sounded better through the headphones on the earlier version. Audio is sort of a tough one to judge without putting it on a spectral scope as it is so subjective to most ears. Some will hear it and say it sounds great and two minutes later another will break in and tell you it is the worse audio they have ever heard, LOL.
>
>Looking forward to hearing a bit more data and information on both the NR distortion and the seemingly higher audio drive required for this load.
>
>73 - Steve W5JK
>
>
>
>On Jun 4, 2010, at 1:33 PM, John Molenda wrote:
>
>> New firm ware : Any one notice a improvement in there speech processor ? Mine is now usable up to 5 with very little distortion before I was limited to around 2 . John kb2huk
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:35:27 -0500
>From: Steven Kline <skline4 at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <C56F56AF-3981-41DD-A52D-5A4EB6D30F44 at verizon.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>Comment "Off Subject".
>
>Gosh Phil, I don't see why there is a need for an apology. I have been monitoring this list for years and seldom comment, mostly listen. However, reading your response below and Harry's earlier message, I take exception to that request. Toss the email in the used bit bucket and don't be so hard on yourself, life is too short. The majority of us have all hit the send key too soon at least one time before realizing it was headed to an unintended audience. I sure didn't observe or incur any hardship from such a trivial mistake, and see nothing offensive that would necessitate/demand a public apology - good grief. Maybe the reminder you received from the "outgoing member" was just meant to be a poke at a little fun and humor.
>
>And, good luck to Harry on the power supply. Please be safe.
>
>Steve - W5JK
>
>
>On Jun 4, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
>
>> I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I owe
>> the group an apology.
>>
>> It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>> Harry out to the entire group.
>>
>> I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>> least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>> happened before.
>>
>> Phil C. Sr.
>> k4dpk
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk at comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>
>>
>>> Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>>>
>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>> k4dpk
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1 at charter.net>
>>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good afternoon to all,
>>>>
>>>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>>>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the
>>>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced
>>>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>>>
>>>> Harry
>>>>
>>>> WA8HC1 at charter.net
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:54:46 -0500
>From: "Rick Borken" <rickb at cpinternet.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] bug in firmware 2.043B, at least I think so
>To: "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <1F7D942D60854C829997D8C27472421A at RadioDesktop>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> reply-type=original
>
>I am pretty sure I have found a bug in the new firmware release.
>
>I use the four USER memories to store various parameters for different
>modes. In particular, I use USER1, 2, 3 and 4 for CW, RTTY, SSB and PSK
>respectively. For each mode, I use different values of BW. It appears that
>the USER memories do not set the BW value to the setting stored in the
>USER memory, but the BW value remains unchanged.
>
>For example, I use USER1 for CW, and I stored a BW value of 100 Hz in USER1.
>I use USER2 for RTTY, and I use a BW value of 250 Hz in USER2. But if I have
>BW set to 100 HZ and push USER2, the BW value does not change to 250 HZ, but
>it remains at 100 Hz. This is not the behavior I observed in earlier
>releases.
>
>73, Rick K0XB
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:37:35 -0400
>From: "Gene Henderson" <wb9hla at comcast.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>To: <TenTec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <6F02543F51984CCAA5CB60CC94DBA456 at GenePC6120>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Sorry Guys ,
>Going back to the old version 2.039 trying to work the MUSEUM SHIPS WEEKEND EVENT and so much distortion and popping cannot not hear. The noise reduction needs some work. I thought this one was going to be the one, but I will need to wait a little longer longer.
>
>Gene WB9HLA
>
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>
>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:34:21 -0500
>From: "Dennis Duffin" <duffind at verizon.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] Orion 2 Firmware 2.043B Released
>To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <D8FDAB3432954469952FD20CE144F623 at denny>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I have downloaded the update but actually seems noisier than previous
>releases and the NR distortion is pretty bad. Will give it a little more of
>a test drive before heading back to the old version
>
>
>
>73, Dennis W5UV
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 00:28:00 -0400
>From: "Jeffrey M. Swiger" <N8NOE at ARRL.Net>
>Subject: [TenTec] Ten-Tec Paragon & Icom PW-1 Amp?..
>To: tentec at contesting.com
>Message-ID: <0A9AF4CB-3487-40F5-953D-617B8FB8F931 at ARRL.Net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi All, Been a While since I posted..
>I just got a Ten-Tec Paragon in from a Trade and was thinking of connecting it to the PW-1..
>ANYONE done this?..
>
>The Ten-Tec has TX EN/TX OUT..
>The TX out: Provides a Closure to Ground thru an open collector Transitor to ground whenever the Paragon is in Transmit Mode.
>No more Specs I find in the Manual I have?
>
>Is this the Thing Needed on the PW-1's
>SEND Control Jack's?...
>
>In Reading, it seems the PW-1 needs the Ground, but Gives Specs of
>MAX. Control: 5.0V DC / 0.1A
>Ground Level: -0.5 to 0.8V DC
>
>If I read RIGHT, if the Paragon Can Ground this, all is good?..
>I Really Need some advice on this one..
>
>Jeff-N8NOE
>N8NOE at ARRL dot NET
>can get me direct..
>
>THANKS!........
>
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>
>Message: 11
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:41:08 -0700
>From: "Troy W6HV" <w6hv at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] New software
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <7EB61A7AF95A470E8F31A83FFB459F62 at HAL3>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
>Same for me. I tried to run a net today and had to fight the gain, NR
>levels, etc. Going back to 2.039.
>
>Troy, W6HV
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Gene Henderson" <wb9hla at comcast.net>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:37 PM
>To: <TenTec at contesting.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>
>> Sorry Guys ,
>> Going back to the old version 2.039 trying to work the MUSEUM SHIPS
>> WEEKEND EVENT and so much distortion and popping cannot not hear. The
>> noise reduction needs some work. I thought this one was going to be the
>> one, but I will need to wait a little longer longer.
>>
>> Gene WB9HLA
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 23:38:23 -0400
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <87C02CC87F75435D826B7D7C3196EA51 at sparky>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Sorry Steve....
>
>I guess I forgot the sarcastrophe.
>
>:)
>
>Phil C. Sr.
>k4dpk
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Kline" <skline4 at verizon.net>
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 6:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>
>
>> Comment "Off Subject".
>>
>> Gosh Phil, I don't see why there is a need for an apology. I have been
>> monitoring this list for years and seldom comment, mostly listen.
>> However, reading your response below and Harry's earlier message, I take
>> exception to that request. Toss the email in the used bit bucket and
>> don't be so hard on yourself, life is too short. The majority of us have
>> all hit the send key too soon at least one time before realizing it was
>> headed to an unintended audience. I sure didn't observe or incur any
>> hardship from such a trivial mistake, and see nothing offensive that would
>> necessitate/demand a public apology - good grief. Maybe the reminder you
>> received from the "outgoing member" was just meant to be a poke at a
>> little fun and humor.
>>
>> And, good luck to Harry on the power supply. Please be safe.
>>
>> Steve - W5JK
>>
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
>>
>>> I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I
>>> owe
>>> the group an apology.
>>>
>>> It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>>> Harry out to the entire group.
>>>
>>> I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>>> least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>>> happened before.
>>>
>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>> k4dpk
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>>>>
>>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>>> k4dpk
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1 at charter.net>
>>>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon to all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>>>>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of
>>>>> the
>>>>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet??
>>>>> Replaced
>>>>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry
>>>>>
>>>>> WA8HC1 at charter.net
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>
>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:49:12 -0700
>From: "Jim Brown K9YC" <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "tentec at contesting.com" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <20100605064918.356F258BBF at gw1.nlenet.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:08:31 -0400, Harry Coates wrote:
>
>>Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?
>
>I've never owned one, but my Hercules II runs quite well from any good
>solid power supply that puts out 14V at 80-90A. My first solution was a
>pair of Astron RS70s, each dedicated to half of the outputs. The power
>plug is wired so that is quite easy to do. The RS70s have a voltage
>sense terminal that allows them to be strapped together, and I use it.
>
>My second solution is a big switching power supply that a friend gave
>me after I loaned him the Herc II to take on a DXpedition. It's a LOT
>smaller and a LOT less weight, but with enough output to run the amp at
>full power. He used it on the DXpedition, and gave it to me when he
>returned the amp.
>
>A third solution I've seen folks use is to run the amp from a big 12V
>battery that is float-charged by a well regulated supply big enough to
>keep the battery charged with the TX duty cycle. I've done this with my
>transceivers for years. AA7JV, who, with HA7RY runs VERY good 2-man
>DXpeditions to remote islands, used six 12V car batteries and float
>charger to run his 500W amp for nearly a month. Because the power
>supply was relatively small, they were able to run their small 1.5kW
>Honda generator in economy mode, and got by with a ridiculously small
>amount of gas. That was critical, because they were on a very small
>boat. See http://www.tx3a.com/ I met George, AA7JV, in Dayton and
>heard his presentation about the trip.
>
>73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 14
>Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 09:03:22 -0600
>From: Harry G McGavran Jr <w5pny at arrl.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>To: tentec at contesting.com
>Message-ID: <20100605150322.62EA91A986A at localhost.localdomain>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>There are a number of things I like about 2.043B -- one seems to be
>that the CAT interface seems a tab more robust. I might just be
>dreaming it, but I've written a number of programs for my Orion II
>that use the CAT interface and one problem has always been that
>if one is sending a long sequence of commands that don't generate
>responses to the Orion, some of the commands are not executed
>by the Orion. Increasing the delay between commands helps, the
>the delays required seem to vary in not so predictable ways.
>That problem SEEMS to be better than with 2.039d.
>
>BUT -- I really really dislike to new NR algorithm -- particularly
>as it affects the side-tone, even with the NR off. After a couple
>days of operating with 2.043B, I finally had enough and went
>back to 2.039d. It seems to me the new NR algorithm is doing things
>even when NR is off... I hope the next release either reverts to
>the old NR algorithm or gives the user a choice of which one he wants.
>In any case, the side-tone is atrocious unless kept at very low levels
>and/or NR is invoked at fairly high levels. For those of us in
>very quiet locations, that drives me nuts.
>
> 73,
> Harry, W5PNY
>
>
>
>--
>
>Harry G. McGavran, Jr.
>
>E-mail: w5pny at arrl.net
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 15
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:49:19 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jerry Kitterman <jerry.kitterman53 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] WTB: Century 22 or 21
>To: TenTec at contesting.com
>Message-ID: <961895.11357.qm at web111215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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>Looking to buy a Century 22 with no issues or possibly a C21. Best price shipped to Indiana, 47119.
>Jerry? W9JLK
>
>
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>Message: 16
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:56:39 -0700
>From: "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] New software
>To: <w5pny at arrl.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
> <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4D51ACB36EC149D6A706294BE4268853 at RonPC>
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>Harry: I have been unable to duplicate the problem you're describing. Are
>you using headphones and do you have the Sub RX audio routed to the left and
>right and right phones? Do you hear any difference when you use just Main
>routed to the phones? Also, what side-tone frequency are you using and
>where is your CW Rise/Fall time set? I found that all of these thing effect
>the sound of the side-tone in one way or another.
>
> Ron N6IE
> www.N6IE.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harry G McGavran Jr" <w5pny at arrl.net>
>To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:03 AM
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>
>
>>
>> There are a number of things I like about 2.043B -- one seems to be
>> that the CAT interface seems a tab more robust. I might just be
>> dreaming it, but I've written a number of programs for my Orion II
>> that use the CAT interface and one problem has always been that
>> if one is sending a long sequence of commands that don't generate
>> responses to the Orion, some of the commands are not executed
>> by the Orion. Increasing the delay between commands helps, the
>> the delays required seem to vary in not so predictable ways.
>> That problem SEEMS to be better than with 2.039d.
>>
>> BUT -- I really really dislike to new NR algorithm -- particularly
>> as it affects the side-tone, even with the NR off. After a couple
>> days of operating with 2.043B, I finally had enough and went
>> back to 2.039d. It seems to me the new NR algorithm is doing things
>> even when NR is off... I hope the next release either reverts to
>> the old NR algorithm or gives the user a choice of which one he wants.
>> In any case, the side-tone is atrocious unless kept at very low levels
>> and/or NR is invoked at fairly high levels. For those of us in
>> very quiet locations, that drives me nuts.
>>
>> 73,
>> Harry, W5PNY
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Harry G. McGavran, Jr.
>>
>> E-mail: w5pny at arrl.net
>>
>>
>>
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>Message: 17
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:34:56 EDT
>From: Rsoifer at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] New software
>To: w5pny at arrl.net, tentec at contesting.com
>Message-ID: <62713.35f35ea0.393be4c0 at aol.com>
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>I see that T-T has posted a comment about the NR. My own experience, that
>using a high setting of NR (9) and an AGC slope of 1:10 reduces the popping
> and distortion, is in line with their comment. However, it still seems to
> me that the new NR needs some more "fine tuning."
>
>I've set the sidetone level to 30 and it sounds pretty good with my 400 Hz
>tone.
>
>73,
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 6/5/2010 3:03:23 P.M. GMT Standard Time, w5pny at arrl.net
>writes:
>
>
>There are a number of things I like about 2.043B -- one seems to be
>that the CAT interface seems a tab more robust. I might just be
>dreaming it, but I've written a number of programs for my Orion II
>that use the CAT interface and one problem has always been that
>if one is sending a long sequence of commands that don't generate
>responses to the Orion, some of the commands are not executed
>by the Orion. Increasing the delay between commands helps, the
>the delays required seem to vary in not so predictable ways.
>That problem SEEMS to be better than with 2.039d.
>
>BUT -- I really really dislike to new NR algorithm -- particularly
>as it affects the side-tone, even with the NR off. After a couple
>days of operating with 2.043B, I finally had enough and went
>back to 2.039d. It seems to me the new NR algorithm is doing things
>even when NR is off... I hope the next release either reverts to
>the old NR algorithm or gives the user a choice of which one he wants.
>In any case, the side-tone is atrocious unless kept at very low levels
>and/or NR is invoked at fairly high levels. For those of us in
>very quiet locations, that drives me nuts.
>
>73,
>Harry, W5PNY
>
>
>
>--
>
>Harry G. McGavran, Jr.
>
>E-mail: w5pny at arrl.net
>
>
>
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>Message: 18
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:09:45 -0500
>From: "Rick Borken" <rickb at cpinternet.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] Sidetone in v. 2.043B?
>To: "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <F8F824CE029F4115963444A2699C5475 at RadioDesktop>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
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>
>Does anyone else feel the sidetone in the new firmware has a unusual "mushy"
>sound or seem almost like there's a faint echo? It also sounds to me as
>though the volume of the tone gets louder in the first few fractions of a
>second. I know this is a very subjective thing, but the sidetone just does
>not sound pleasant to me. In the past, the sidetone always seemed crisp and
>clean.
>
>73, Rick K0XB
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 19
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:16:09 -0700
>From: "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Sidetone in v. 2.043B?
>To: "Rick Borken" <rickb at cpinternet.com>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec
> Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <427B1592E1574F939966966B321D4B70 at RonPC>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Try listening with just the Main routed to the headphones, then compare with
>the "Both" setting. Also the CW rise-time setting the CW menu effects the
>sidetone sound. I think the difference is that "Both" is the default
>setting when you install the new firmware.
>
> Ron N6IE
> www.N6IE.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Borken" <rickb at cpinternet.com>
>To: "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:09 AM
>Subject: [TenTec] Sidetone in v. 2.043B?
>
>
>> Does anyone else feel the sidetone in the new firmware has a unusual
>> "mushy"
>> sound or seem almost like there's a faint echo? It also sounds to me as
>> though the volume of the tone gets louder in the first few fractions of a
>> second. I know this is a very subjective thing, but the sidetone just does
>> not sound pleasant to me. In the past, the sidetone always seemed crisp
>> and
>> clean.
>>
>> 73, Rick K0XB
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>Message: 20
>Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:18:41 -0400
>From: "Kris Merschrod" <Kris at merschrod.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <71B3B742464245699CC82EFA1AEF4F0B at Staples0258PC>
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>
>Good afternoon,
>
>The problem seems to have been the input filter, exactly why I have not
>figured out. I pulled that filter and put a jumper in its place and "bingo"
>no SWR on 40 (or the other bands) and full power out as it should.
>
>The "PI" filter (actually is more complicated than a PI - it has a third
>inductor and Capacitor to ground tapped from the middle of the inductor part
>of the PI. I imagine that part is designed to pull certain higher
>frequencies to ground.
>
>Now I want to modify it so that it will OP on 10 and 12 Meters. Has anyone
>gone through this MOD?
>
>Kris KM2KM
>
>Merschrod
>123 Warren Road
>Ithaca, NY 14850
>www.merschrod.net
>
>
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>
>Message: 21
>Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:43:12 -0500
>From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj at weather.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D
>To: tentec at contesting.com
>Message-ID: <4C0A9AC0.6070409 at weather.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>I presume that TenTec has an FCC approved mod given out only to licensed
>hams that substitutes a different filter or your jumper. That series
>tuned trap in the present filter is probably resonant at 27 MHz to be
>sure it can't be driven easily on that band. The book also says the
>plate tank needs a modification for 10m. FCC rules preclude making that
>information generally available. Tentec may have to see a copy of your
>license.
>
>The scematic shows a pi while there are three coils in the pictures.
>
>Time to call tentec.
>
>73, Jerry, K0CQ
>
>On 6/5/2010 1:18 PM, Kris Merschrod wrote:
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> The problem seems to have been the input filter, exactly why I have not
>> figured out. I pulled that filter and put a jumper in its place and "bingo"
>> no SWR on 40 (or the other bands) and full power out as it should.
>>
>> The "PI" filter (actually is more complicated than a PI - it has a third
>> inductor and Capacitor to ground tapped from the middle of the inductor part
>> of the PI. I imagine that part is designed to pull certain higher
>> frequencies to ground.
>>
>> Now I want to modify it so that it will OP on 10 and 12 Meters. Has anyone
>> gone through this MOD?
>>
>> Kris KM2KM
>>
>> Merschrod
>> 123 Warren Road
>> Ithaca, NY 14850
>> www.merschrod.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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