[TenTec] Brand Loyalty

Sat Jun 15 12:31:20 EDT 2013

Sorry hit the wrong key ....... Scolded me for not being Rock Bound..... it
was easy to see that I was running a VFO. He took me under his wing and
helped out. Several days later I received a package in the mail that my
parents could not figure out. He had sent me 10 Crystals for my Hot Water
16 Radio. And a note telling me to be careful about using the VFO, as a
Novice. At one time there was a Healthy Fear that the FCC would Punish Rule
Breakers. Has anyone listened to 7.200 Khz. lately? If, I were going to
talk on 7.200 it would be just as well to get my Dads old Browing Eagle
Radio out and start hollering Breaker 19 !!!!!!! We have an Extra in our
club that didn't know until recently ... that Repeaters have Positive and
Negative Offsets.

Wade/KJ4WS

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Wade Staggs <tvman1954 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As a Novice ( way back when ) I remember straying outside of the alloted
> bandwidth just once. We didn't have Digital Radio's and frequency counters
> from China accurate to 5 Hz. back then. Instead of  a lot of bad mouthing,
> hate and discontent. One old fellow sent a nice slow transmission ( one
> that I was sure to copy 100% ) He was moving to 1 Khz below the top of the
> Novice Band. After finding him again, we had at least a 3 hour QSO which I
> am sure Ruined his ability to run high speed ..... at least for a while. I
> was told to mark my Dial on the Transmitter to keep from being out of band
> again on 80 Meters. Although he could have easily Scolded me for not being R
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM, <d.e.warnick at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Time for one of my favorite rants.
>>
>> I miss the novice bands. It's not about CW vs. Phone. It's about giving
>> new hams a set of frequencies with reduced privileges where new hams and
>> experienced hams could be sure to connect. I learned a lot from the old
>> timers on those novice bands with reduced power, before I was allowed to
>> move on to everywhere. Many of us earned our stripes there and learned to
>> listen and operate correctly.
>>
>> I wish we could go back to an entry level license. It could be SSB if you
>> like, but limit power and frequency availibility for a mandatory year. Say
>> 100 watts on the old novice CW frequencies and a matching set of phone
>> frequencies on 80, 40 & 15. A place for new guys to get their feet wet.
>> Yes, there would have to be tolerance and Elmering by those of us who are
>> now old timers.
>>
>> We've dummied down our tests and then opened up the whole world to those
>> who are not ready for that. It's not the fault of the new guy who hasn't
>> learned. The FCC took away the training ground
>>
>> Just my rant. That's OK, I'm 69 and will go away in time
>>
>> Thanks for the bandwidth .
>>
>> Oh, yes, Bob. I loved the story. You always have great input and info.
>> Maybe there is something to having been at it a long time. And I am happy
>> with the audio on my Omni VII & Orion II & still learning from others
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> WA3F
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: "Reed Krenn" <reed.krenn at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:49:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty
>>
>> I think I'll go buy a new computer so my emails will look better.....
>>
>> Reed / WW3A
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, "Joe Ham" is alive and well and reproducing at a faster rate than
>> we
>> > are!
>> > (hi)
>> >
>> > Lovely story, Bob!
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> > Rick, DJ0IP
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>> > McGraw
>> > - K4TAX
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:01 AM
>> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> > Subject: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty
>> >
>> > Recently a close friend and one that is on the frequency where myself
>> and
>> > several others settle to "rag chew" on a very regular or daily basis
>> stated
>> > that he may sell the radio he had been using as he wasn't satisfied with
>> > the
>> >
>> > audio.  He was using his Omni VII and a 705 mike and dipole antenna.
>> One
>> > day he announced to the group that he had sold his Omni VII and had
>> > purchased a brand XX/model radio.  {The actual brand & model is not
>> > important here.} Over the next two weeks he used the new radio on the
>> air.
>> > The "rag chew" group made clear and definitive statements that the new
>> > brand
>> > XX radio had much better audio than the Omni VII.  He "settled" on the
>> > suggested adjustments that were offered for that model and continued
>> daily
>> > to join in the "rag chew" sessions.  Frequently he was honored with the
>> > comment "that new radio sure sounds better than the Omni VII" type
>> reports.
>> >
>> > After two weeks, he couldn't stand the pressure and announced to the
>> group
>> > "well fellows you are all full of crap, as I've been using the same Omni
>> > VII, same mike and same antenna for the past two weeks.   There has been
>> > and
>> >
>> > is no new radio".  Many of the fellows were totally embarrassed and
>> grossly
>> > had proverbial "egg on their faces" as they had boldly and lavishly
>> > complemented  the "alleged new radio" and its audio quality.
>> >
>> > Frankly, being in on the joke from the start and hearing these
>> exchanges,
>> > when he disclosed the prank,  I laughed until I thought my trousers
>> would
>> > need laundry service.
>> >
>> > I suppose this goes to somewhat prove that folks give reports seemingly
>> > based on radio model and brand and not of actual and accurate signal
>> > evaluation.  In other words, they aren't capable of hearing and
>> reporting
>> > any real or significant difference, although they claim to hear dramatic
>> > improvements when indeed there were none.
>> >
>> > The general word is "HYPE" that feeds one's ego.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Bob, K4TAX
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Richards" <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
>> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 5:57 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Speech Processor
>> >
>> >
>> > > Personally, Gary, after reading your comments over the past couple of
>> > > years, and reviewing your setup procedure, I am confident you have
>> > managed
>> >
>> > > to ring the most out of the rig and processor, pushing it to the max,
>> > > while maintaining a narrow, clean, and intelligible signal.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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