Kevin Go to this site for info on the Flag and Pennant receive antennas. They really work. http://www.angelfire.com/md/k3ky/page37.html Also, try searching on K9AY LOOP. This one is also quite effective and popular. Plus, there are any number of articles/web pages about tuned loops. I have one here that works well. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG