Topband: [Fwd: Re: Equal opportunity]

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

There is no penalty for me giving an apparent dupe "another" exchange.
No contest sponsor deducts for scattered dupes. If I *don't* give the
extra exchange, and I'm not in his log, the disputed qso will become a
NIL penalty for *me* and reduce *my* score.  *I* lose, not him. And it
always takes more time to dink with him except maybe in the ARRL
sweepstakes with its long exchange.

Who is seriously arguing this any more? Cabrillo logs don't claim
credit, just report QSO's. Dupes are simply tossed by the contest
sponsor.  That started a long time ago when computer log processing
came into play.

Maybe some guys are dissed by the omni present few who are not keeping
logs and hit me up once per day per band.  They are points for me.
Apparent score in the logger only counts 'em once.

73, Guy.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Chet <chetmoore at cox.net> wrote:
> Herb and Art have it right.
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> I had several stations tell me I was a dupe this past weekend.  When I
> responded with an NIL (not in log) the guy just called CQ again.  For sure
> he is not in my log and he will not get credit for the Q.   The thing to do
> is to give another report.  I am pretty sure he worked K4FX and not me.  For
> a run station, just giving the report would appear to me to help him keep
> his "rhythm" and is much faster than telling someone they are a dupe.
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> Definitely some stinkin thinking going on here
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> 73
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> Chet  N4FX
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> On Behalf Of Herb Schoenbohm
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:04 AM
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> Subject: Topband: [Fwd: Re: Equal opportunity]
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> Art K6XT wrote:
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>> In the just concluded CQWW 160M CW contest I was told "no dupes" by a
>> multiplier DX station. The DX op would not complete the QSO. Timing wise
>> there is no doubt who the DX was telling "no dupes". I had in fact
>> worked that call a week or two prior to the contest on TB. This is the
>> only active station from the country, the only opportunity for the mult.
>> Some were able to log it, some who definitely had access were not.
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> Art,
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> I had a similar problem in reverse but only related to the 160 meter contest
> when a European whose multiplier I needed called me again the next day.  He
> showed
> up on the "dupe warning error".  Maybe this was a multi op who did not know
> who the other op worked the day before and/or there was no ability for their
> logger
> to reject dupes, or even worse he had copied my call wrong in the first or
> second place. This happens enough to worry about it especially with the
> penalties for making mistakes in this contest.  Fortunately N1MM allows
> me to log the second contact as a dupe by not stricking the return key
> but rather by the mouse click on "log it".  It assigns no points to the
> contact and also displays when the station was first worked.  One could
> also easily scroll up and delete the first contact and leave the second
> but that is not a wise choice either since when checking their log the
> duped station could remove the second contact and then you both lose.
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> My advice to DX contesters: Reply to the suspected dupe caller and send
> the exchange and let the logging software do the work.  I takes less
> time than going back and forth send "no dupes" no dupes" which is
> probably programmed in to the logging program as a special hot key.
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> So my question is: What is wrong in logging the dupes as long as no
> point credit is provided? At least there will a record of the contact(s)
> without any punishment.  Plus the LOTW credits are there to use for one
> or both.
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> BTW I uploaded my 160CQ contest log a few minutes after the conclusion
> of the contest.  This should save some TB's the cost of postage which
> now in some countries like DL is allmost 3 times the cost of a U.S. 98
> cents stamp.
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