Topband: Response to W8JI's comments about using a K2AV foldedcounterpoise at VK6VZ

[Bob K6UJ]

Tom,

FWIW, I have been following this discussion and will agree that your intended points somehow get changed.

Also, I totally agree with your statement "when multiple things are changed in a randomly cluttered environment it is impossible to 
single out a single factor"    I am guilty of making multiple changes to an antenna system and then making assumptions as to 
what caused the change.  My process now is only change one thing at a time, then evaluate and continue on.  :-)

73,
Bob




On Sep 24, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Tom W8JI wrote:

>> FWIW, I have not heard or seen K2AV making unreasonable "claims" of performance.
> 
> Neither have I, nor have I ever inferred he did.
> 
> My point, which was addressed to Steve, was pretty basic stuff. I don't understand how it gets changed so much.
> 
> My point was, when we change **everything** in a system, including where the main vertical element is located in a very cluttered environment, and especially when we have a station that historically has reported over many years having a problem getting any vertical to work as well as a horizontal antenna, it is a very large leap to single out a ground system change as making a few days of operating performance feel good.
> 
> There isn't any reason to extrapolate things so simple and basic into something no one said.
> 
> I think it is appropriate and necessary to mention the following general facts:
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> 1.) When multiple things are changed in a randomly cluttered environment, it is impossible to single out a single factor
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> 2.) When a system or location has a history of being sensitive to antenna styles, it is probably not the most reliable performance evaluation site
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> 3.) A few days or weeks of contacts don't mean much on any band, let alone 160. We all probably know this  :-)
> 
> No one should be offended by anyone's efforts to keep technical discussions grounded in reality, and it certainly should not be changed to something that was never said or implied.
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> 73 Tom 
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