Topband: 160m polarization and elevation angles

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Merv Schweigert via Topband" <topband at contesting.com> 
To: topband at contesting.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 9:33:19 PM 
Subject: Re: Topband: 160m polarization and elevation angles 

Not sure how long they were on, but I remember it was the years of 
decent propagation 
My experience hearing them was at the sunrise and sunset time to KH6. 
I could hear many OH 
stations and at no time was OH8X signal better than the other OH stations, 
many OH were stronger. If I remember by the next season the antenna was 
destroyed 
by the weather. So it seemed to be short lived. 
That was in 2008 and I worked them both sunrise and sunset times. 
73 Merv K9FD/KH6 


> Does anyone know when OH8X was active on 160? The RBN archive goes back to 2009, snd it would be fairly easy to mine the archive. 
> 73 Pete N4ZR 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:50 PM, cqtestk4xs--- via Topband <topband at contesting.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> Another thought on this. 
>> 
>> 
>> I visited W8JI's station some years ago where had the usual 4 square for 160 and also an inverted Vee at around 300 feet. He told me that the inverted Vee seldom played as good as or better than the 4 square The 4 square was usually much better. 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill K4XS/KH7XS 
>> 
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>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Greg - ZL3IX <zl3ix at inet.net.nz> 
>> To: topband <topband at contesting.com> 
>> Sent: Fri, Mar 30, 2018 7:34 pm 
>> Subject: Re: Topband: 160m polarization and elevation angles 
>> 
>> Hi Carl, 
>> 
>> OH8X was active for some months when I was making Qs with Eu, in 
>> particular OH. I never heard them at all, although I have no idea of 
>> exactly when they were QRV. My guess is that if their monster antenna 
>> had produced results, they would have been a lot more active. We can 
>> certainly draw inferences from that! 
>> 
>> In contrast, I have made many Qs with other guys running good stations 
>> with vertical Tx, such as OH2MA and OH3XR. In fact if there is any 
>> propagation at all between ZL and Eu, OH is often one of the first areas 
>> to benefit. 
>> 
>> Conclusion - OH-ZL is not a particularly difficult path, and if the OH8X 
>> antenna had been effective, I would have easily heard them. 
>> 
>> 73, Greg, ZL3IX 
>>> It would have been great to have had the OH8X 160m Yagi up for a long time 
>>> so RBN could have been used to compare it to nearby vertical antennas. It 
>>> would have shown how much of this theory is applicable in the real world. 
>>> 
>>> 
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