Topband: Straws in the Wind ....A 160m Dx'ing Sea Change is Upon us!

[Patrick Parmentier]

Happy Easter all,  and what abt WAZ 160m ? 73 Pat on7pq . 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] Namens Hans Hjelmström
Verzonden: zondag 1 april 2018 09:36
Aan: Peter Sundberg
CC: k1zm at aol.com; topband at contesting.com
Onderwerp: Re: Topband: Straws in the Wind ....A 160m Dx'ing Sea Change is
Upon us!

Good morning all

As it probably can not be stopped. The ONLY way seems that ARRL acts, and
NOT accept these modes ( unhearing modes)  for todays dxcc. If they make a
separate dxcc for these modes, anyone that prefer these kind of QSO,,,, can
use these for that NEW dxcc. And it will not impact ,,,todays dxcc.

And all others can continue with the challenge and work new ones , by the
help
of improved antennas , operating skills   aso  aso

BUT as I understand ( wrong or not ) they ( arrl ) are not interested to
act.

Have a fine Eastern .

Hans SM6CVX

> 1 apr 2018 kl. 09:16 skrev Peter Sundberg <sm2cew at telia.com>:
> 
> For those who have not yet seen how the future of 160m band harvesting 
> - not DX'ing -  will be done, check this video out
> 
> <http://ae5x.blogspot.se/2018/01/video-fully-automated-ft8-qsos.html>h
> ttp://ae5x.blogspot.se/2018/01/video-fully-automated-ft8-qsos.html
> 
> Apparently SV5DKL made 13.000 QSO's on the bands in a few months, totally
without operator intervention. I bet many hams were happy to put SV5 as a
new DXCC in their log, Isn't it wonderful that his computer was so helpful
with that while the operator was busy with other things.
> 
> As for the legal aspects of unattended operation of a ham radio station -
who will be able to tell if the operator is there or not as it is fully
automatic anyway..
> 
> In the near future - if we embrace this way of operating -   for Wednesday
activity nights on 160m we just let our computer do the work and check in
the morning how many contacts that were made and how many that are already
credited via LotW. Simple as that.
> 
> In contrast to this digital automation it was very interesting to read 
> Jeff K1ZM's report from the Spratly expedition on how the experienced 
> and highly skilled crew put in a BIG effort to make real radio 
> contacts. Way to go!  And I am glad that they did not leave an FT8 
> robot station behind, neatly tucked away in a corner of the conference 
> room.. :-)
> 
> I do not want to take part in this modern Internet driven computer game.
If people would disconnect their FT8 computers from the report services on
the net there would be a lot less amazing contacts in the noise as the "a
priori" advantage is lost. Then it would be more apparent what the radio
channel is actually providing for them.
> 
> I think that the statement from Ken K4ZW in his recent posting is very
appropriate:
> 
> "For those who think guys like me are dinosaurs, I would kindly suggest
you don't understand what motives us. 73 Ken K4ZW"
> 
> We can't change/stop this new lazy way of automatic band harvesting. Many
will even make huge amounts of money on the new way of operating.
> 
> But we can still do it the old fashion way, as it pleases us to make radio
contacts. Therefore I will continue to populate the 160m band with my CW
signal until there are no more stations to work.
> 
> 
> 73
> Peter SM2CEW
> 
> 
> _________________
> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

_________________
Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband