[TowerTalk] Fw: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Exper ts
Bill Aycock
baycock at direcway.com
Mon Aug 30 21:01:54 EDT 2004
My gripe is that I think a summary statement of the solution should have
been early in the post. It was not. The "jewel"- in this case the fact
that the Orion was set up wrong- was
hidden near the end, and could easily have been missed, leaving me with
the impression that the antenna was at fault.
Bill
At 02:36 PM 8/30/2004 -0500, Paul Henning wrote:
>Your point being? You did find the "Jewel" so it must have been worth the
>effort doing the "wading." I am not sure exactly what your gripe here is
>or was or are you just consuming bandwidth for the sake of showing that
>you can do so?
>
>Paul N. Henning
>K9PH
>Director of Research and Development
>Amtelco
>4800 Curtin Drive
>McFarland, Wisconsin 53558
>www.amtelco.com
>paul at amtelco.com
>(608)838-4194
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Aycock [<mailto:baycock at direcway.com>mailto:baycock at direcway.com]
>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:13 AM
>To: Towertalk at contesting.com
>Subject: Fwd: Re: [TowerTalk] Fw: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Experts
>
> >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:26:28 -0500
> >To: kk9a at arrl.net
> >From: Bill Aycock <baycock at direcway.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fw: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Experts
> >
> >Indeed! My really BIG gripe is that I had to wade through what seemed to
> >be a yard of posts and read carefully to find out that the problem was
> >lack of care by the antenna owner about his set-up and its tuning. In
> >other words- operator error.
> >One benefit of reading the junk to try to find the Jewel was that I found
> >that the manufacturer is an absolute Paragon of tolerance and cooperation;
> >He is to be commended!
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >At 02:36 AM 8/30/2004 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >>It sure would have been nice if people would post their solutions. It
> gives
> >>us a chance to learn and also informs everyone that the problem has been
> >>solved.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Jerry Keller" <k3bz at arrl.net>
> >>To: "(Reflector) TowerTalk" <towertalk at contesting.com>
> >>Cc: <wtrone at comcast.net>
> >>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 16:02
> >>Subject: [TowerTalk] Fw: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Experts
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm sure Bernard WA4OEJ won't mind that I share with you on TT the final
> >>outcome and solution of the
> >>"Real Problem for Antenna Experts" thread that recently transpired on the
> >>SteppIR reflector and
> >>here. I know there are a lot of you that are interested.
> >>
> >>73, Jerry K3BZ
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone at comcast.net>
> >>To: <SteppIR at yahoogroups.com>
> >>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:52 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Experts
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Jerry:
> >> >
> >> > No, don't shut up!!!!
> >> >
> >> > The people at SteppIR, Fluid Motion, especially Jim were
> >>absolutely wonderful. Their
> >>customer service is absolutely #1.
> >> >
> >> > This antenna does work! No one should let my experience effect
> >>them in a negative
> >>way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > The help on this board and the TowerTalk board was GREAT!!!
> >> >
> >> > Now, to go put the tower back up.
> >> >
> >> > 73,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bernard, WA4OEJ
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Jerry Keller
> >> > To: SteppIR at yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:39 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Experts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Really interesting.... and it turns out NOTHING AT ALL WRONG WITH THE
> >>STEPPIR ANTENNA !!!!
> >>Emphasis
> >> > is for the benefit of anyone who may have been watching this
> thread and
> >>perhaps thinking that
> >>the
> >> > SteppIR was just too good to be true, something was bound to happen
> >>eventually.)
> >> >
> >> > In retrospect, maybe one of the most important clues was when the
> DE was
> >>replaced without seeing
> >>any
> >> > difference?
> >> >
> >> > Oh, and kudos to the folks at Fluidmotion who sent the replacement
> parts
> >>and helped to work on
> >>the
> >> > problem.... just one more great example of the kind of people we're
> >>dealing with out there!!
> >> >
> >> > Finally, many, many kudos to the TEAM here on the reflector that
> Bernie
> >>calls "really SHARP"...
> >>no
> >> > flames, no hassles, just step-by-step failure analysis to help a
> fellow
> >>ham, in the very best
> >> > traditions of amateur radio. I bet I'm not the only one who is
> proud of
> >>the way this was
> >>handled,
> >> > and proud of those that contributed. OK, I'll shut up about it now...
> >>but this was truly an
> >>example
> >> > for others to follow.
> >> >
> >> > 73, Jerry K3BZ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone at comcast.net>
> >> > To: <SteppIR at yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 12:07 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [SteppIR] Real Problem for Antenna Experts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > I tell you, you guys are really SHARP!!!!!!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Hooked up my FT-1000 to the Daiwa to the SteppIR. The
> SteppIR
> >>worked.
> >> > >
> >> > > It turns out that the Orion was locked on a transmit
> frequency
> >>on 40 M. No wonder I
> >>was
> >> > able to measure a reasonable SWR with my 80/ 40 Inverted V and the
> GAP
> >>Challenger and the 50 ohm
> >> > dummy load. Hate to say it but shame on me, it looks like it was
> mostly
> >>operator error with a
> >>new
> >> > radio.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now to put up the tower and work some DX.
> >> > >
> >> > > The only positive aspect of this situation is that I now
> know
> >>a whole lot about the
> >> > SteppIR operation.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
> >> > >
> >> > > 73,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Bernard, WA4OEJ
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> >>Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
> >>any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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> >Bill Aycock - W4BSG
> >Woodville, Alabama
>
>Bill Aycock - W4BSG
>Woodville, Alabama
>
>_______________________________________________
>
>See: <http://www.mscomputer.com>http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self
>Supporting Towers", "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call
>Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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