[TowerTalk] Fractal Antennas, Chip Cohen (N1IR) on Nova Last Night

Roger (K8RI) K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net
Wed Dec 15 22:15:39 PST 2010



On 12/15/2010 9:01 PM, Dennis OConnor wrote:
> Well, Chip created controversy on here (and elsewhere)...  He seems to have made a market for his cell phone and other UHF antenna products - and more power to him...  This is 'supposed' to be a capitalistic economy where you take risks and get to keep the rewards (or losses)...
> But having Gov't / DOD contracts is not necessarily proof positive of a superior product...
I think it probably makes a reasonable, limited space antenna, but  not 
nearly as efficient as a full size.  At Tom pointed out you can't 
violate the laws a physics. He made claims about working Europe with one 
watt using one of those antennas.  I worked a guy  (on 6-meters) down in 
Honduras who was testing his rig on the work bench.  He antenna? A short 
piece of wire stuck in the coax connector and laying on the bench.  He 
was more surprised than I was.
> Having said that, as an empirical antenna nutcase, I am unable to visualize where bending my dipole into lebenty zillion short segments at angles to each other will improve the performance...
It won't<:-)) It'll just let you put it into a limited space with most 
of the associated drawbacks of a limited space antenna. Radiation 
efficiency has to go down, but you do gain bandwidth...which reminds 
me...so does a 50 ohm resistor. <:-))
> He and Tom, W8JI, got pretty personal in the dispute...
So that's what you call that?
> Tom made his antenna arguments with an analysis of the fractal antenna based on the laws of physics, and some fairly deep math...  Tom comes across as a good old boy, but his education is solid in electrical engineering and he has the annoying habit of being 'right' most of the time...
>
> Anyway, it has been peaceful since Chip left the scene (or was pushed)and I prefer it that way...
Amen!
> denny / k8do
73

Roger (K8RI)
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